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caspar21
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| Posted 10/1/2004 3:54 PM (GMT -8) | | had to use a hybrid gas/electric car for a bit at work.. i like my power... but the savings were sick!
(off topic) by the way; any idea on the deadline for that sport touring 3way article? just dying to read thatone! | | Back to Top | | |
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OhioSteve
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| Posted 10/2/2004 11:19 AM (GMT -8) | | I rode a honda 150 cc scooter in college. I had alot of fun with it, they go faster than most people realize, and they are quite economical. However, the handling is not as good as you might guess. My GS500F is MUCH easier to control in a turn, even though it weighs 100 lbs more than the scooter. I think that those tiny tires really effect handling negatively. And of course, scooters aren't as emotionally appealing as motorcycles.
The Yamaha's $2500 price tag is extremely reasonable. | | Back to Top | | |
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OhioSteve
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| Posted 10/2/2004 11:20 AM (GMT -8) | | | Aprilla makes a scooter-like vehicle with larger tires. I wonder how much that improves handling. | | Back to Top | | |
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Sumanster
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| Posted 10/6/2004 11:52 AM (GMT -8) | | | What kind of mileage does the 50cc version get? I suspect it might be worse since the littler engine would have to work harder. A buddy of mine gets around 80 mpg on his Ducati Monster 620ie (when cruising at around 65-70 mph). I'm tempted, but don't want fork over the dough for a Duc or its maintenance... Anyway, I like the Vino's styling, so if the running costs are low I'd consider getting one (in addition to my Intruder, not as a replacement). | | Back to Top | | |
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bkorfhage
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tedwhite
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| Posted 10/10/2004 2:06 PM (GMT -8) | | Last January after I sold my Bandit 600 I decided to try something different. So I bought a brand new Vino 125. It is a tight, well built machine. Fit and finish are excellent. I got about 75mpg after it got broken in.
HOWEVER, damn thing was dangerous in any traffic moving at 50mph. I had to keep pulling over into the bicycle lane to allow cages to pass. Acceleration is quite adequate up to about 35mph, forget it after that. Oh, yeah, it will do 55 (level, no wind).
Suspension was unacceptable and hurt my back. Small 10" wheels a major contributor to the bad ride and "high" speed twitchiness. The Vino might be OK in a congested urban setting where traffic is never fast. Plus, you can park it on the sidewalk.
So I tried a 650 Suzuki Burgman. Half-a-busa engine, CVT transmission. Wonderful, instant acceleration up to 60 or so, kind of ho-hum after that. But it does freeway speeds easily (100mph top speed) and you can get three cases of beer under the seat. Once again, the suspension was inferior (my 1975 Road toad 100cc felt cushy in comparison) and stock windshield produced horrific helmet wind noise and buffeting. Givi makes a windshield for the Burgman that makes life 90% better.
So I gave up the pioneering into a brave new world. Sold the Burgman and bought a Honda 599. Bliss.
'04 Honda 599
'75 Hodaka 100cc Road Toad
'03 VW Passat 1.8T | | Back to Top | | |
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Steven Buehler
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| Posted 10/28/2004 4:54 PM (GMT -8) | | | I actually traded in my 2004 Yamaha Zuma 8 months after I bought it for the '04 Vino 125. Decided that I needed something that could actually keep up with traffic. I read the review with much interest and have to agree with it. I've bought mine in May of this year and have already put over 5,000 miles on it, including numerous rides from Lakeland, FL to Tampa, FL (80 miles round trip) and even a trip to Daytona (125 miles each way) via the back roads (a little under four hours of straight riding with a single stop for gas each way). The engine is practically indestructible.
There is one design issue that can cause a problem. The top bolt that secures the exhaust to the frame is prone to vibrating out or shearing in two because it's too long to withstand engine heat and vibration. However, it is an easy fix under the warranty, and my dealer replaced it with a stronger one when mine disappeared and added some lock-tite to make sure it wouldn't go anywhere again. There is also an issue on many of the 2004 units with the crankcase seal failing prematurely, requiring another warranty repair. It typically happens within the first few hundred miles; but it never happened in my case. In neither case is there a catastrophic issue (I think I rode without my exhaust bolt for nearly 1,500 miles before my dealer noticed it was gone during a routine service).
I figure versus my wife's 2000 Hyundai Elantra, my cost of putting premium gas in this thing is about a quarter the cost of putting regular grade gas in the Elantra for the same distance. I average between 75 and 85 MPG, and on one trip where I did a consistent 45 MPH the scooter got almost 100 MPG (that seems to be the speed where it is at maximum fuel efficiency). Speed-wise the Vino 125 can get up to 50 MPH fairly easily if you handle the throttle gently to produce the torque, and I've been able to hold 55 MPH often in good conditions. The fastest it's gone is 57 MPH. That's more than adequate for getting just about anywhere.
The last thing to note is that if you're doing distance riding, you don't want to have anything in the seat that can't withstand heat ... the temperature in that seat can get to 110 degrees or higher because the engine is almost directly underneath it (I had a little thermometer key chain from somewhere I neglected to remove, and after an 80-mile ride it read 110 when I removed it).
I ride on my 125 with a group of "classic" Vespa scoots and its design fits right in, but it also has just enough engine power to ride with larger scooters for longer distances. | | Back to Top | | |
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Sumanster
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| Posted 4/29/2005 1:17 PM (GMT -8) | | Just saw this response from YD:
Sumanster said...
A buddy of mine gets around 80 mpg on his Ducati Monster 620ie (when cruising at around 65-70 mph).
YellowDuck said...
He is totally, completely BS'ing you. No way. Unless he only cruises downhill.
60 - 65 MAYBE. More typical for those bikes is 55.
I sh*t you not! We were on a cross-country ride together last year, and at one point, about 120 miles from our last fuel stop, he only put in 1.5 gallons. Now that you mention it though, I didn't check if he actually *filled* his tank!  However, I really doubt he wouldn't have topped it off as we were covering a lot of distance during that trip. I should mention that he only weighs about 130 lbs. himself, so that combined with the moderate speeds mentioned above may have contributed to his bike's low thirst. Heck, my Intruder 700 gets 55-60 mpg under similar conditions (& I weigh about 150 lbs.).
This is why I'm not willing to switch to a much slower scooter unless it gets really outstanding mileage. | | Back to Top | | |
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