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golfer
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Date Joined Aug 2004
Total Posts : 9
| Posted 10/26/2004 9:58 AM (GMT -8) |   | Victory is like a sore peeter. You can't beat it. | | Back to Top | | |
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Grampa544
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Total Posts : 360
| Posted 10/26/2004 11:39 AM (GMT -8) | | Self-cancelling turn signals, the Japanese should jump on board with this innovation? I'm riding a '04 Silverado, got self cancelling turn-sig's. Where you guys been?? | | Back to Top | | |
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V102SF
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Date Joined Apr 2003
Total Posts : 31
| Posted 10/26/2004 5:13 PM (GMT -8) | | | My '99 Victory has self-cancelling signals, then they apparently cut them as a cost savings. Now they are back. My '05 FJR1300 doesn't have them. | | Back to Top | | |
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Kevin Duke
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| Posted 10/27/2004 12:53 PM (GMT -8) | | Thanks for the history lesson, guys. I realized there were a few Japanese exceptions, but my words were merely encouraging all manufacturers to put self-canceling turn signals into widespread use. With the amount of miles I rack up, you can be sure that I'm quite diligent about canceling them manually. But there are those rare times when I forget and I end up feeling like an idiot because I've been riding the past several blocks with them still blinking. I know I'm not the only forgetful one out there, so I believe automatic cancelers should be equipped on all models over, say, $8000. Or, better yet, make them an option--$75 or so--and let the consumers decide for themselves. Happy trails, all.
-KD, MCUSA Road Test Editor | | Back to Top | | |
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louemc
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Total Posts : 15451
| Posted 10/27/2004 1:34 PM (GMT -8) | | I think self canceling signals should be on all bikes of any cost, it's a major safety item, (think hazzard item) to be going down the street/hwy, signaling that you are going to turn, but, have no intention of doing the turn. But for the test, just glat that Kevin did it, he is the only one that I like or feel the confidence in, to examine the details, and give complete and factual write-up on them. As far as the bike goes, performance/handling wise, it better be matched with people that don't expect much there, and favor a stunning look instead. That makes it a match made in heaven for the typical higher end cruiser rider though, so all is well (I guess) .
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OhioSteve
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| Posted 10/27/2004 3:17 PM (GMT -8) | | | Sounds like a great bike. I like seeing the standard tach on a cruiser. | | Back to Top | | |
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V102SF
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Total Posts : 31
| Posted 10/28/2004 2:36 PM (GMT -8) | | Victory quite often has "input sessions", or whatever you want to call them, with customers. They also do surveys at alot of their events. I have seen their engineers at events taking pictures of things that customers have done to their bikes and have even seen a couple of these changes incorporated in new model year bikes. I live about 20 miles from corporate headquarters and run people from there on a regular basis. They also bring the new bikes to "First Thursday", a monthly bike night at a pizza joint in Minneapolis, for feedback. Often before they are even announced.
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T'man
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Date Joined Nov 2004
Total Posts : 1
| Posted 11/10/2004 6:34 PM (GMT -8) | | Listening to owners advice makes sense to me. Especially with a relatively new company.  | | Back to Top | | |
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Hawk44Gent
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Date Joined Jan 2005
Total Posts : 3
| Posted 1/15/2005 9:40 AM (GMT -8) | | | The Victory Hammer appears to be a great bike.....should sell at a real good clip.
Only problem for me is not enuff HP & Torque....even with the factory performance
upgrades. I grew up on Kawasaki H-2, Z-1....Honda CBX and first year Yamaha V- Max.
That thrill of neck snapping accleration must be satisfied fter you have enjoyed it.
I would love to see the motor put out...say....180 HP and 180 Ft Lbs of Torgue with
the driveline modified to handle that much power (twin final drive belts?). The 6th gear
was a very wise move. Thats a deal breaker for me with large V Twins.
Love the way the bike looks and sets.....except for the exhaust which is easily fixable. Also love the way the motor looks.....much cooler than an HD V Twin. Like supporting a young
American motorcycle company too.
Hawk44Gent.
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jon
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Date Joined Aug 2004
Total Posts : 4569
| Posted 1/21/2005 9:19 PM (GMT -8) | |
Hawk44Gent said...
The Victory Hammer appears to be a great bike.....should sell at a real good clip.
Only problem for me is not enuff HP & Torque....even with the factory performance
upgrades. I grew up on Kawasaki H-2, Z-1....Honda CBX and first year Yamaha V- Max.
That thrill of neck snapping accleration must be satisfied fter you have enjoyed it.
I would love to see the motor put out...say....180 HP and 180 Ft Lbs of Torgue with
the driveline modified to handle that much power (twin final drive belts?). The 6th gear
was a very wise move. Thats a deal breaker for me with large V Twins.
Love the way the bike looks and sets.....except for the exhaust which is easily fixable. Also love the way the motor looks.....much cooler than an HD V Twin. Like supporting a young
American motorcycle company too.
Hawk44Gent.
yeah, if you're looking for something that will give the rush of the v-max, it's not going to happen with these newer cruisers. i think the r3 and v-rod are close but i haven't seen those bikes broke the 10 second 1/4 mile barrier yet like max did.
looks wise, i think the vegas looks sharp especially from the 240 rear tire angle and it's priced right imo. of course some hd people will just call it another 'hd clone'. plus, i don't think their stealers ripped people off like some of the hd stealers i.e., mark ups and charging more $$$ for their 'hd' labeled accessories and gears even though it's made in china like others. not slammin hd because other brands would probably do the same too if given the opportunity. | | Back to Top | | |
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Hawk44Gent
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Date Joined Jan 2005
Total Posts : 3
| Posted 1/22/2005 2:35 AM (GMT -8) | |
Benjamin,
The V Max lacks torque? What dyno results have you been looking at?
The Z-1 also produced respectable torque in it's day and the H-2 was no
slouch in the torque area either. Yes, a stock V twin produces considerably
more torque than horsepower and is perfectly suitable for riding around with
a girl on the back. Thats fine. I want a bike that will thrill me....even scare me
a little with its acceleration. Take a look at the horsepower & torque results
from the many modified, large inch H-D V-Twins from the firms that make
ready to install motors for the custom bike/chopper market, such as S&S.
Their 145 inch motor makes 180 HP and 180 ft lbs of torque. This is the kind of
motor I would love to see powering the Victory Hammer.
If you want to ride around on a docile V Twin with a girl on the back thats
perfectly OK with me.....just don't take me to task for wanting something more
exciting than stock, 14 second brand acceleration.
Hawk 44 Gent
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Hawk44Gent
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Date Joined Jan 2005
Total Posts : 3
| Posted 1/24/2005 12:57 AM (GMT -8) | | | Thanks Mark for the info.
Looking forward to being able to ride a Hammer with that 106 inch motor.
Yes....for less than 20 G's, a Hammer so equipped would come in about 10 thou
less than a custom bike assembled and painted.
I find myself not so interested anymore in another V Max.
Hawk 44 Gent | | Back to Top | | |
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chasdog
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Date Joined May 2005
Total Posts : 3
|  Posted 5/5/2005 8:46 PM (GMT -8) | | I have a New Hammer and I must say its a great bike . For a factory bike it has plenty of power and torque. I also own a 2003 Harley Dyna Superglide . The hammer has many advantages over it although I love my harley . Hands down the Hammer is wayyyyyyy more powerful and smooth. It may not keep up with the 4 cyl superbikes but its quick enough up to 100 mph.
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Binklebonker
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Date Joined Aug 2006
Total Posts : 1
| Posted 8/25/2006 12:57 PM (GMT -8) | | | Hawk44Gent wrote:
The Victory Hammer appears to be a great bike.....should sell at a real good clip.
Only problem for me is not enuff HP & Torque....even with the factory performance
upgrades. I grew up on Kawasaki H-2, Z-1....Honda CBX and first year Yamaha V- Max.
That thrill of neck snapping accleration must be satisfied fter you have enjoyed it.
I would love to see the motor put out...say....180 HP and 180 Ft Lbs of Torgue with
the driveline modified to handle that much power (twin final drive belts?). The 6th gear
was a very wise move. Thats a deal breaker for me with large V Twins.
Love the way the bike looks and sets.....except for the exhaust which is easily fixable. Also love the way the motor looks.....much cooler than an HD V Twin. Like supporting a young
American motorcycle company too.
Hawk44Gent.
Okay, so this reply is going to be pretty late, as I JUST discovered this forum! Anyway, if anyone out there is still reading this thread, a few months ago I had the pleasure to ride the Hammer and also a Triumph Rocket 3 at the same dealership. Additionally, my brother followed me to the dealership, on his V-Max. He rode next to me each time I took a bike out for a spin, and we would compare performance of the bikes to his V-Max, and I have to say that the performance of both bikes next to the V-Max was quite good!!!
Keeping in mind that I wasn't interested in tearing up a bike that I didn't yet own, I didn't bother trying to launch either bike against the Max, so we kept all our comparison "races" to rolling starts or pure roll-on tests.
The Rocket 3, as you might imagine, would DECIDEDLY out-pull the V-Max from any speed south of 80mph (didn't try from any faster, or running through the gears, where the V-Boost would have been a factor), and was astoundingly fun to ride. How can sooo much power not be fun???
The Victory Hammer was, to me, the biggest surprise though. I have to say that I think the Hammer has probably the best finish I've ever seen on a production motorcycle. The paintwork was excellent, the chrome was excellent, the style was elegant (for what it is), and I could not believe how integrated I felt with the bike and the road when I rode it! WOW!! When comparing the accelleration of the Hammer to the Max, we initially started from a rolling start in top gear at about 45mph, and just twisted the gas at the same time. The Max walked right away from the Hammer. The Hammer, however, was disadvantaged by the 6th gear, and I think the motor was turning somewhere around 1400rpm at that speed. The V-Max was comfortably over 2000rpm. However, I tried again (when I caught my brother finally) and deciding to sneak one in on him, tried again just as before, but with the Hammer starting in 4th gear, which also put the motor turning around 1750-1800rpm. This time, the Hammer pulled right away from the V-Max, and held the lead until just at 100mph (when I backed off). I have to say that the Hammer was still pulling VERY well at 100mph in 4th, and was just getting ready to cross over 4000rpm, if memory serves.
The V-Max is a truly remarkable bike, and I will have the privelige of riding it long term in about 3 weeks, but I would not hesitate for one second to plop my money down on the Hammer, if a performance cruiser was what I was after. It was an excellent bike!! | | Back to Top | | |
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