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Shane Fisher
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   Posted 10/16/2011 5:46 PM (GMT -7)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Okay so im 15 and been very confused with my options lately, I have a ttr 125 yamaha dirtbike that i can ride very well so i am used to clutch and shifting and everything, but i know a motorcycle is alot diffrent , What shaould i do, 1 get an old bike (my original plan) like a kz550 1982 or something like that and learn how to ride on that and stuff as i get my permits, but then face it not being reliable, or 2 save up through christmas and what not and all the other money ill be makeing soon and by a nice sportster. But would this be easy to learn on? i dont wanna wreck it. Or 3 possibly by and older amf harley davidson of a family member for only 400 and ride that for now and learn on that (i think what i mostly want to do)? thanks for your help.
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   Posted 10/16/2011 7:03 PM (GMT -7)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
if you think a kz550 is not reliable, an amf harley is even worst imo. if i was in your shoes, i would take the msf course first then pick out a bike second. i know several people that spent $1000 or less on their first bike (including me) and it did the job well in terms of reliability, mechanically sound, etc. all those bikes were japanese brand bikes so reliability wasn't a big concern even at those price range. there are good learning bikes for very little money relatively but make sure it's not abused and is mechanically sound and safe before buying. used and cheap is my preference when it comes to first bikes. bottom line is do what's right for you, good luck!
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   Posted 10/16/2011 11:13 PM (GMT -7)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
an amf harley vs a kaw kz550. Honestly I almost wanna laugh. the kz is BY FAR a way more reliable machine. My first machine was a 1983 kz 550. The AMF harleys were problem machines. very unreliable and leaked oil like a sieve. the kaw is lighter and probably a much better learner bike.


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   Posted 10/17/2011 1:31 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
A Harley of any age is a large heavy machine, just what you should avoid when learning. Get something much lighter. Harley gained a bad reputation when owned by AMF and bad reps are seldom undeserved. Save yourself the grief and get a reliable machine for now. If you really want to buy a Harley, wait until you can afford a decent one.


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   Posted 10/17/2011 5:43 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
AMF got out of HD almost 30 years ago. Unless we're talking about a time capsule/barn find, the odds are pretty good that most of the 'Harley-itis' on that old war pig has been fixed by now. A new 1974 Harley was generally a kit bike that needed finishing and most buyers expected a new motorcycle to be ready to ride, and that's how they got the rep - but once the things were sorted they were Ok. Once sorted a '74 shovel was no worse than a Pan - and nobody calls Pans junk.

HOWEVER - OP, you are a neophyte. An AMF vintage HD is not really a motorcycle, it's a rolling project/labor of love for an expert, which you are not (yet). Your best answer right now is small, cheap, and japanese. You have enough to learn just becoming a rider - you don't need to learn to become a rider of and 800 pound touring rig AND a mechanic/restoration specialist all at the same time.

Early 80's UJM like that Kz were awesome. My recommendations:
1 - take an MSF BRC. You don't know what you don't know, and that's a great first step.

2 - Have somebody who knows what they're looking at check it out and ride it and if all is well buy the silly thing.

3 - Get some decent gear. DOT helmet, good gloves, sturdy boots, paddy jacket. This doesn't have to cost a lot of $, just get decent stuff and wear it every time you ride.

4 - Ride safe, ride a lot, have fun. :-)


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   Posted 10/17/2011 7:01 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Shane Fisher said...
or 2 save up through christmas and what not and all the other money ill be makeing soon and by a nice sportster.
First, you should NOT be opening a second thread to discuss exactly the same issues as in your first group of messages.  That's bad proceedure.
 
If you think a Harley will be more "reliable" than a metric bike.........you have been listening to the wrong people.
 
Do your parents know you are reading books written by criminals ??
 
 


 
 

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el SID
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   Posted 10/17/2011 7:25 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As a newb,I would recommend,"Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance" by Robert M. Pirsig. Far better read,and not a wanton criminal. I'm with Easy,shouldn't be stating a separate thread and changing the bike. Troll move. As a newb you get a pass though. Now if you are readiing this,GET BACK TO YOUR SCHOOLWORK! America needs another high school drop out,like it needs another war. 


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   Posted 10/17/2011 10:23 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Just a small tip, for if you have a Second Hand Book Store then wander in & look around from some used m/c mags.  Basically because you pick up some of the suggestions, to the lingo & so more of an understanding.

The regulars, on  this board will give you some suggestions, & with an understang of what they are saying ---well this bit of ready will have given you some help in understanding.

ALSO may I suggest you take the MSF Course for though they will be at slow speeds then you will be learning this & that from most being good instructors & some of them are regulars on this board.

Mind you I think you have to be 16 yrs of age & not 15 to obtain a DL on a m/c be it the bush, in town or on the paved roads to even some of them being of gravel.



Remember all the others on the road are crazy & out to kill you.

Post Edited (Smitty) : 12/27/2011 2:02:56 AM GMT

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   Posted 10/17/2011 12:50 PM (GMT -7)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Smitty is right. I know here in CA you must be 16 and take the Basic Rider Course before you can get issued a permit. The permit allows you to only ride on city streets during the day, no riding at night or on freeways and you must not carry a paseenger. You must hold that permit for 6 months before being issued a license. Probably differs from state to state, so check your DMV for details. But the basic rider's course is a must for sure. Besides, the course is fun and you will learn a great deal. I know I did! 

Oh, since I am a noob too I am not in a very good position to be offering advise on your first bike purchase. The guys here are vets and will give you good information for sure. I ended up taking a slightly different path in that regard which generally would not be a recommended way to proceed! So welcome aboard and good luck with your search, youngin!


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Post Edited (RaptorFA) : 10/17/2011 8:26:40 PM GMT

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   Posted 11/16/2011 11:59 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Raptor, even though you are a bit new, but are learning more & more about riding, some tips are good from some of the new riders if it is sensible & not the extremes of something like knee dragging when hitting the twisties or bends.


Remember all the others on the road are crazy & out to kill you.

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