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  		   Posted 9/10/2007 2:52 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Star looks to cash in on the custom craze with its 2008 Raider that fuses styling cues of a chopper with modern performance. Take a peek at the 2008 Star Raider - First Look article and give us your take on its new cruiser platform.
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  		   Posted 9/10/2007 3:28 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It does look cool, but,...(sigh),...to much money for me.
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  		   Posted 9/10/2007 4:15 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I didn't even know this model was coming - Star hasn't done much marketing for it. Overall, I like it. I really like the looks from the seat forward. The front wheel, especially, looks real nice. The tank is gorgeous. Unfortunately, the rear end is a mess. The swingarm looks hideous - they should have gone with a tradional softail - and the fender looks like a tradional HD bobtail fender mounted at a goofy downward sloping angle (hope the accessory catelog offers a different fender). I hope that passenger pillian is removable because it looks completely out of place. The price puts it squarely into American Big Twin territory with the Dynas and the 8-Balls, which seems to be a recent trend with the metrics. I don't think going to toe-to-toe with the MoCo has been a winning strategy yet for any of the Japanese manufactorers. But this just might be the model that pulls it off and if Star can do it, more power to them. I'm sure there will be multiple comparison road tests with this and the HD Rocker. Should be very interesting.
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  		   Posted 9/10/2007 4:39 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
a cruiser like that for only 13 grand and maybe even less once the papers are signed....nice!
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  		   Posted 9/10/2007 6:31 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I agree Boland, tank forward bike looks great.  A single front brake rotor to show off more of that front wheel would have looked cooler.  The faux chrome on the tank spoils an otherwise clean line and nice shape there.
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  		   Posted 9/10/2007 6:42 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I like it. Two brakes up front are always better than one. It's got a couple of odd styling touches, but it looks like a totally righteous ride. Perhaps the styling is not as well integrated as some, but that big honkin' Roadliner engine should significantly outpower similar bikes from Wisconsin and Minnesota.   (Actually, you can probably get a CVO Harley that will perform the same -- for about 25 grand.)

I'll have to see how my finances stack up next year, because I'd love to give everyone a ride report of this.
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  		   Posted 9/11/2007 8:04 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I love it! But I don't know what is meant by 'custom chopper'. It looks exactly like a Fatboy, only without the solid wheels. I bet it will really spit down the road because it looks relatively light.

It's a great look, but not chopped or custom looking as far as I know what that means.
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  		   Posted 9/11/2007 10:11 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Blech! Fugly.

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  		   Posted 9/11/2007 6:11 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Being an owner of a Stratoliner, I can tell you it will be one fast and stout ride.

THe 113 engine is a brute!

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  		   Posted 9/11/2007 10:36 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Temporary Saint said...
Blech! Fugly.

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LOL!!! There's one in every crowd! I guess it shows the diversity of people and good on you for voicing your opinion!smilewinkgrin
 
 
Personally I like it!:p

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  		   Posted 9/12/2007 1:10 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Why did they make it air cooled?eyes confused

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  		   Posted 9/12/2007 3:18 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
basshole said...
Why did they make it air cooled?eyes confused

the yamaha v-twin star line have always been 'air cooled'.....it's been working out for them for years so i guess no change needed.

Post Edited (jon) : 9/12/2007 11:26:38 PM GMT

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  		   Posted 9/12/2007 4:59 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Love the Raider.
 
Disappointed with the Royal Stars...4 years now and still the same basic paint schemes and colors...let's see, red and black, blue and black, grey and black...ok...now flip 'em...throw in one all white bike...
 
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  		   Posted 9/12/2007 6:26 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
When I first looked at it... Cool and smooth. Then after studying it a bit it turned into a hodge-podge before my eyes. It looks like they took parts from whatever bin was handy and put them together. To me, the tank shape is nice, but then it looks like model parts were glued on the top and sides to get "a look" It just doesn't seem to flow for me. Don't care for the big gap between tank and fork, the down-turned rear fender (already pointed out).

I like it being air-cooled. I ride a friend's Yamaha Warrior occasionally and love the bike (although the garbage can exhaust could go). Same with this bike, I like the lines of the pipes but not the bulk. I bet it is a great riding bike and I know the motor rocks. Overall it is good looking it just doesn't seem like a cohesive package, like a Victory Vegas Jackpot.

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basshole said...
Why did they make it air cooled?eyes confused

  The new VStar 1300 is water cooled.   The 113 engine is already out there in the Liners and it is a natural for a bike that goes up against the Dynas and Vegas.
 
Besides, radiators may add horsepower and cooler running engines, but they are UGLY!

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  		   Posted 9/12/2007 7:11 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well I don't know about you, but when I'm riding, I ain't lookin for a radiator on a bike! burger
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basshole said...
Why did they make it air cooled?eyes confused

  The new VStar 1300 is water cooled.   The 113 engine is already out there in the Liners and it is a natural for a bike that goes up against the Dynas and Vegas.
 
Besides, radiators may add horsepower and cooler running engines, but they are UGLY!

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  		   Posted 9/13/2007 9:50 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It looks like the old Yam Viragos from the mid 80s.
I like the way the bike looks, but not so much the kink in the exhaust just before the mufflers. That new Harley (Fat Bob?) with the Fat Boy body but twin headlights does it much better.

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  		   Posted 9/13/2007 7:58 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Considering the Victory Bikes are butt ugly, short wheelbase, 109's radiator looking like Ball calling umpire's chest protector, and Harley's Sportster's making one look like a praying mantis...the Raider is just what a metric buyer is looking for.
A Zilla size engine, tons of leg room and Stars usual factory slam concerning chrome everything!
1300$ msrp? Just stop looking to replace my 2001 30 thousand mile V Star (Zero Problems) 1100!
Hell, for the price....I'll buy the wife a V Star 1300 Tour (4 Her handbag and stuff)d and get both rides for the price of a Full Dress Hog!
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  		   Posted 9/14/2007 9:42 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bryan, is that you piloting the 'chopper' in the article? What are the torque numbers?

basshole said...
Well I don't know about you, but when I'm riding, I ain't lookin for a
radiator on a bike! burger ...

Neither am I, but they stick out like the old sore thumb... Not seen an exposed MC radiator yet that did not totally ruin the lines of a cruiser. Esp. with a light coloured cowling surrounding it.

Are there currently any cruiser-type models using air/oil cooling? Suzi's still selling faired oilers, I think.

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  		   Posted 9/17/2007 3:21 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I own a Stratoliner Midnight and was surprised to see my Motor in another Frame! But the Name Raider reminds me of those old Yammie PWC's from the mid 90's!! That kills it for me even tho I'm not in the Market for a New Bike, can't wait to see one up close.
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  		   Posted 9/19/2007 6:14 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What's it weigh? Small tank.
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  		   Posted 9/20/2007 10:02 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

The low profile rear tire looks a tad odd with the fender at certain angles (check their 360 view) and I don't like the name (don't like Fat Boy or Fat Bob either!), but I think they've done a nice job and have come in $6k below the Rocker C.  Look at the specs - forged aluminum frame - now they've got this and the liners with aluminum frames.  Victory went Aluminum with the Vision.  

I think Star is wise to stick (mostly) to air cooling, as well as single pin and belt drive.  I won't consider Honda, Suzuki, Kawi or the 1300 because I don't like radiators. 

 

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  		   Posted 9/21/2007 8:36 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
looks like the roadliner and warrior combined with a wide glide style front end.  this bike has got some major potential for customization, rivaling the road star.  since their release of the road star in 1999, yamaha continues to produce the only metric cruisers that stick to the basic principles of what every modern day harley alternative should have....an air-cooled, pushrod v-twin, monster torque, and a belt final drive.  once the aftermarket catches up, you're gonna see some bad-ass raiders rolling around.  anyone who chooses that hideous new harley rocker over this bike needs to have their head examined.

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  		   Posted 9/21/2007 12:23 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Fat Bob and Fat Boy are names that go way back. I'm sure they were catchy names when they first came out, but now they are primarily tradional.

The Rocker seems to me the inverse of the Raider in that while the Raider looks great from the seat forward and hideous from the seat rearward, the Rocker has a great looking rear-end and a the most fugly gas tank and handlebars I've ever seen on a stock Harley. Maybe someone will chop the two together and come out with a stellar bike.
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  		   Posted 9/30/2007 9:54 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wow, I really love the look of it. I'd get one if I could afford to. I've been looking for a largish cruiser to offset the painful long-distance of my ducati.
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