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Harley1
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Desmolicious
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| Posted 9/24/2008 1:04 PM (GMT -8) | | The styling is just slightly 'off'. Obviously they are trying to make it look as much like a Harley as possible, without making it look exactly like a Harley. So what you have is a giant two wheeled mildly retarded cousin to a Harley.
Gonna sell as well as the Valkyrie Interstate did, or the Yam Venture (the Harley copy one).
At least Victory knew that there was no point in making a Harley clone when they made the Vision.
Am I biased? Of course, that's why I recently bought a Harley. For the look, the sound and the simplicity. It was also a lot cheaper than many of the Japanese offerings. Sure some of them may be 'faster' etc but who cares? All of these bikes are a joke performance-wise when compared to bikes like my St4s, a Busa, a ZX14, a C14, a FJR13 etc etc .
If you want fast, comfy, great handling, great brakes - get an St type bike. If you want a cruiser, well, there's a reason why one mfg completely dominates the land scape.
Plus this thing looks like they took the fairing off the BMW r12Cl tourer. Hmm, that bike isn't sold anymore either..
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Meilaushi
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| Posted 9/26/2008 11:17 AM (GMT -8) | |  Looks like more Wretched Excess to me. But then I like the looks, feel, rideability, and long distance fun of BMW R60s, Royal Enfield Bullets, and Triumph Bonnevilles. Anything over 650cc and 450#, covered with the present assticized plasticized coatings is nonsense IMHO. Less is more. Methinks. | | Back to Top | | |
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turbohawk
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| Posted 9/26/2008 2:02 PM (GMT -8) | | I totally agree that the cruiser-based "tourer" is a joke. I personally can't stand overweight, underpowered, overly slow, anemic braking and too pricey (now) "motorcycles" known as "cruisers". Total crap if you ask me.
The one good thing is that the real cutting edge of technology, the sport bikes, are dirt cheap compared to the Harley clones, and for this I am grateful to all the cruiser buying morons out there.
Sorry if this offends some but heck it's the truth...
Prove me wrong.
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HogWild
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| Posted 9/27/2008 6:12 PM (GMT -8) | | Desmolicious said...The styling is just slightly 'off'. Obviously they are trying to make it look as much like a Harley as possible, without making it look exactly like a Harley. So what you have is a giant two wheeled mildly retarded cousin to a Harley. Gonna sell as well as the Valkyrie Interstate did, or the Yam Venture (the Harley copy one). At least Victory knew that there was no point in making a Harley clone when they made the Vision. Am I biased? Of course, that's why I recently bought a Harley. For the look, the sound and the simplicity. It was also a lot cheaper than many of the Japanese offerings. Sure some of them may be 'faster' etc but who cares? All of these bikes are a joke performance-wise when compared to bikes like my St4s, a Busa, a ZX14, a C14, a FJR13 etc etc . If you want fast, comfy, great handling, great brakes - get an St type bike. If you want a cruiser, well, there's a reason why one mfg completely dominates the land scape. Plus this thing looks like they took the fairing off the BMW r12Cl tourer. Hmm, that bike isn't sold anymore either.. <a target="_blank" href=":void(0);"> </a>
Careful Desmo, you're starting to sound like a Harley owner..  | | Back to Top | | |
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HogWild
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| Posted 9/27/2008 11:54 PM (GMT -8) | | Desmolicious said...
The styling is just slightly 'off'. Obviously they are trying to make it look as much like a Harley as possible, without making it look exactly like a Harley. So what you have is a giant two wheeled mildly retarded cousin to a Harley.
Actually the styling is a bit refreshing to tha status quo of the FLHTCU Electra Glide Ultra Classic or as it is more commonly known "bagger." An example of this would be the windscreen and fairing assembly. The bagger lines are old, outdated and long past due for a major overhaul where the Voyager assembly is larger, more aerodynamic and quite frankly much better looking. The same holds true for the bags which unlike the bagger offer a nice aerodynamic shape as opposed the the ice cube tray look of the traditionally outdated Harley. I don't find that Kawasaki has made anything but a Kawasaki and to say this bike was made to look as much like a Harley as possible simply shows a lack of imagination on the part of the observer. A couple of things I did find wrong with the article were the torque specs that listed 108 ft/lbs at 1,750 rpm, it's 2,750 rpm. Also is the typo stating the cruise releases at 12mpg as to the 12 mph it should be. The bike is roughly 100 pounds lighter than the Harley, pulls roughly 20 more horsepower in the stock format and just think, they don't have to shut the rear cylinder off at a stop to keep it cool. So, what you have is anything but a Harley that not only looks better, will likely not come with the shortcomings associated with the Harley as well. | | Back to Top | | |
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texrider
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| Posted 9/29/2008 2:22 PM (GMT -8) | |
Desmolicious said...
texrider said...
It comes from a company that could make and send vehicle to Mars, if they wanted to. Explain that line of reasoning. Kawasaki is owned by KHI (Kawasaki Heavy Industries). Their main business is building massive ships. Quite the opposite of building any kind of space going vehicle.
But I guess it is cool to try to come up with some kind of obtuse point.
Last I checked NASA is American...
Last I checked, the Chinese did a space walk. But you may be right about KHI, since massive state of the art shipbuilding just doesn't measure up to what the American motor company is into... Wait, they are buying an Italian bike outfit... Obtuse enough? KHI could go to the bottom of the sea, or outer space, or anywhere else they want to, with ease. They also happen to manufacture great motorcycles.
The comments made about the V-twin touring market being bloated and overplayed seem funny, coming largely from HD owners. It will be over when they can't sell them anymore. Lot's of baby-boomers between now and then, though.
This is my opinion. There may be others like it, but this one's mine until further notice.Post Edited (texrider) : 9/29/2008 10:29:46 PM GMT | | Back to Top | | |
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