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   Posted 2/13/2006 9:43 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
To test the 2006 Victory Kingpin Deluxe, our editor Duke went up to visit his folks in Canada. For the long journey Victory threw on a prototype topcase to supplement the saddlebags which come standard on the Deluxe. What do you think about a topcase for touring, should Victory put the prototype into production? If so, how much would you be willing to shell out for the extra space?
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   Posted 2/13/2006 11:55 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I got a givi top case a while ago and cant travel without the extra room now ... I also use that to store my helmet when off the bike.
I dont have a victory bike, but in the photo the case looks like it fits well. The givi case looks a little out of place on my bike .. but for functionality it works for me.
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   Posted 2/13/2006 6:03 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Something less expensive then the Harley $650 tour paks would be nice.
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   Posted 2/13/2006 7:31 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Yes, Victory--please build this tour pack.  I would be more than willing to do another evaluation of this pack for the Rocky Mountain Freedom Ride in June '06. smile

 

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   Posted 2/14/2006 1:34 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
IMO, Vic needs to offer this bag. It's essential for traveling two-up. For the added boost in capacity and convenience, it's gotta be worth $600.


-KD, MCUSA Editor

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   Posted 2/14/2006 8:44 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I would definitely be interested in this Touring Pack/Topcase..... UNLESS, it's overpriced.  It is sad to see that many of Victory's accessories are woefully overpriced.  I would think this product could be offered for less than $450.  At least, that's my hope, and I'd buy one!  I also think Victory could sell significantly more motorcycles if they priced them a couple grand lower.  Prices seem to be too comparable to the more well established (and over priced) HD's, and even though the Victory is a superior product, it needs to be seen in the hands of OWNERS a LOT more to compete adequately.
 
-David
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   Posted 2/14/2006 10:06 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
DavidT said...
It is sad to see that many of Victory's accessories are woefully overpriced
I can't agree with you there, David. Victory's Stage 1 performance kit costs just $550, and this gorgeous headlight from the Jackpot is listed in Vic's accessory catalog for just $179!
 
It would be nice if Victorys could be priced cheaper, but it's a difficult to imagine a business model that sees a company producing, I dunno, maybe 3% of the volume of its H-D competitor, and being able to sell the same quality of product at a lower price. Model for model, the Vics are less expensive, so how much more can we expect?


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   Posted 2/14/2006 10:50 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Being a KingPin owner, I always appreciate more available baubles from the factory and aftermarket. I vote to offer the tourpak as an option and price it around $550 (with rack). Make sure it fits the older KP's, and not just the new 100/6.

And while were on the subject, how about a bag option like the Indian bags from Corbin and as shown on the Link below (you might have to cut and paste the link) that is a greater capacity and Don't Leak! By the way, the KP in the link is absolutely beautiful.


http://forums.thevmc.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=17317&posts=23&start=1
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   Posted 2/14/2006 11:30 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

The Stage 1 Kit is merely a set of slipon mufflers, and should not be compared to others'  FULL exhaust systems.  The Victory FULL exhaust upgrade is $800 for the KP, that's too high and much more expensive than a full set of Vance & Hines, Hacker's, or D&D's, etc.  Lets not even talk about charging for a MAP download.  C'mon.  I understand charging a little shoptime for performing the upgrade, hooking up to the digital wrench, but the MAP itself shouldn't have a pricetag, let alone a hundred some odd dollar one.  Software updates shouldn't cost anything.  It's part and parcel of the performance accessory.  If you look at other performance accessories like the PowerCommander, they offer a variety of downloadable MAP's, free of charge.  I paid $129 for a tiny little luggage rack that couldn't have cost more than $20 to produce.  I paid a premium for the Victory branded T-Bag that sits on it, while the same thing elsewhere is fully 15-20% cheaper.  $600 for a chromed swingarm?  shocked  $319 or more for simple leather jackets?  nono   Let's face it, Victory charges more for their accessories because they have a captive audience.  As one poster mentioned, if the tour pack comes with the luggage rack, then $550 sounds reasonable, knock of the separate price for the luggage rack, should drop the price to $420 for those of us who already have the rack.  Doesn't sound out of line with what's already been mentioned.

 

 

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DavidT said...
It is sad to see that many of Victory's accessories are woefully overpriced
I can't agree with you there, David. Victory's Stage 1 performance kit costs just $550, and this gorgeous headlight from the Jackpot is listed in Vic's accessory catalog for just $179!
 
It would be nice if Victorys could be priced cheaper, but it's a difficult to imagine a business model that sees a company producing, I dunno, maybe 3% of the volume of its H-D competitor, and being able to sell the same quality of product at a lower price. Model for model, the Vics are less expensive, so how much more can we expect?

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   Posted 2/14/2006 1:13 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
David, your thoughts on the prices of the rack/tour case aren't any different from mine. It sounds like we're mostly on the same page, with two exceptions. First, $319 for a quality leather jacket (they have some nice stuff) doesn't sound out of line, and that's much cheaper than a similar H-D jacket would cost. Also, the Stage 1 kit consists of a new airbox cover and a K&N filter in addition to the slip-ons, and no remapping is required. Well worth the $550 IMO.


-KD, MCUSA Editor

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   Posted 2/16/2006 10:42 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

YES - Victory should offer this top case as an option.  Hopefully it wont be overpriced and undersized like the current saddlebag offerings from Victory for its flagship!

Large, reasonably priced, quick detach saddlebags would be a nice touch too !!!

It would seem that the Kingpin will provide Victory with an excellent platform to build upon.

 

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   Posted 2/16/2006 3:26 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
bmorgan9119 said...
It would seem that the Kingpin will provide Victory with an excellent platform to build upon.
True, but I'm betting we'll be seeing a nicely updated version of Victory's Touring Cruiser this summer/fall, which might be a better ticket for going long distances. Stay tuned.


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   Posted 2/24/2006 2:01 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I currently own a 2004 Kingpin that I have added standard touring accessories to.  I agree the hardshell saddlebags are fine for around town, but this Deluxe Topcase would add a secure, and from what the phots seem to show, handsome added storage option.  For longer rides I currently use a Nylon T-Bag mounted on the rear backrest.  If the price was right (Victory accessesories can be expensive) I would definately purchase this.  It needs to fit all Kingpins though.  From what I have experienced so far with Victory, they do listen to thier customers, so I'm sure we'll see this item soon. -SS


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   Posted 3/31/2006 7:15 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I like the trunk, and think that as long as they're at it they should integrate arm rests too.  I may consider one for my 2004 Kinging depending on the price.  However, It looks like I can fit far more in my Saddlemen luggage for a weekend trip with the mrs. (or should I say "old lady"?).
 
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   Posted 4/9/2006 8:43 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

I agree with you. I have been watching the Victory ever since they came out and I am getting more interested gonna have to go test ride one shortly. Been riding HD for many a year. I think if they came out with something like what I have now FLFTCI they would pull some from HD to the Victory. Just don't get overpriced on parts/accessories like HD.

 

bmorgan9119 said...

YES - Victory should offer this top case as an option.  Hopefully it wont be overpriced and undersized like the current saddlebag offerings from Victory for its flagship!

Large, reasonably priced, quick detach saddlebags would be a nice touch too !!!

It would seem that the Kingpin will provide Victory with an excellent platform to build upon.

 


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   Posted 7/13/2006 6:06 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

I must totally agree. They do need to offer the rear storage bag. I also have 06 Kingpin Delux and just took a trip to Seattle WA area. I purchase a Rear bag system for thetrip that I had to modify beacause ot the "spade" shaped back rest. It did allow enough space for me and the wife for a comfortable trip but we could not buy any to bring back for lack of space.

As for the KP. I love the bike. I have had it less than 4 months and racked up over 4000 miles so far. My shop offered a no-touch service package and man I am getting my money worth.

Ride hard and safe   skull


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   Posted 7/13/2006 8:47 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Congrats on enjoying your bike, Ravenrider. I expect that topcase to be put into Victory's catalog shortly.


-KD, MotorcycleUSA Editor

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   Posted 8/11/2006 8:15 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I gotta say that DavidT probably doesn't develop software, or mfg., market and sell anything. Not only does Victory (or anyone else for that matter) have to make a living, and the dealership needs to make a living, but both have to make enough profit to develop and make room for the next item they might bring into the fold. If you aren't growing a business, you need to shut it down and go home.

Don't get me wrong, absolutely get the best deal you can for the item; shop eBay, the internet, and other dealerships. The SECOND "tiny little luggage rack" may have cost $20 to produce, but the first one probably cost 5 to 6 figures to develop.
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   Posted 4/15/2007 3:59 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Just picked up a new 06 Kingpin and yeah a trunk that comes off easy would be the best thing ever!  I don't know if the bags are water tight.  Hope so, the trunk should be for sure.
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   Posted 7/18/2008 2:44 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Adding a rear trunk to my Kinpin seemed like a good idea "BUT" in order to do this you have to buy new saddlebag brackets, rear trunk bracket, and the trunk. All this added up to about a $1000, not worth that! So instead I bought a DMY trunk with a wrap around backrest and a wompus rack. Total investment 400 bucks. Victory totally missed the boat on this one and continues to do so with indadequate accessories and poor dealer/customer support. What is an excellent motorcycle is ruined by trying to get service and accessories. Thankfully the bike has proven to be bullet-proof. I don't expect Victory to ever see this, getting through to the parent company has proven next to impossible. Bottom-line, I love my Kingpin but support is woefully inadequate for a high-line product such as this.

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