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bmadson
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jimmihaffa
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core
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| Posted 11/20/2006 7:46 PM (GMT -8) | | Seems like Yamaha may have overcome some of the streetability issues everyone complained about with previous years and the R6. Lower pegs, higher clip-ons and... stop the press... a midrange that ISN'T gutless!
Always comes down to personal preference tho doesn't it. I like the looks all right, but I think this "battlestar" look is on the way out. Cleaner body lines with less complicated fairing design is where it's going, a la the 1098. | | Back to Top | | |
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louemc
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| Posted Yesterday 12:55 PM (GMT -8) | | Well the intro and design changes sure show interest. I most like the engine changes, and the variable velosity stacks, and higher Compression ratio, valve lift, all say lets have some fun here. I'm not at all comfortable with the chassis changes over all, it's going to take a lot of rider feed back in the whole spectrum of conditions and rider likes, to prove this stuff out.
They sure left a lot of items to get changed in the 08 R1, and say they made serious improvements over the 07, clever how that works.
It will be interesting how happy everyone is with the change in the front brakes, it sounds like they are lacking what I like there. I want (but I haven't felt the 07 R1) no shortage of haul down, with one finger, at the get-whoa (some how get-go, doesn't seem like the right word here  , with added, and all wanted, coming in, in the range offered. Again we will have to see, if the usual SS braided lines and after market Pads fix that, then there is no bitch there either.
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kanin75
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| Posted Yesterday 3:05 PM (GMT -8) | | how about the exhaust system? i attended the r1 intro over here in the east coast and it felt a little heavy on the right side. its probably due to the whole system that is right around the right foot peg area. i was just wondering if anybody else noticed it. could it be a pre-production thing? not that it matters, since almost everyone always replace the oem exhaust.
definitely a nice looking bike, but i do agree about the swingarms from the previous year to look a lot better. | | Back to Top | | |
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core
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| Posted Yesterday 4:50 PM (GMT -8) | | | It seems to me that the engineers who do swingarm design for Japanese fours are unconcerned with aesthetics, otherwise they'd be doing singlesided swingarms. It's a beefier design because the engine is making more power. It makes perfect sense from a performance perspective. | | Back to Top | | |
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eparks11
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| Posted Today 9:24 AM (GMT -8) | | I'm sure it's a better bike then the 2006 R1, but I'm not sure if I can get past the styling. Like another poster said, it just looks too squiddy for my taste. I prefer the clean lines on the old R1 over this in your face BS.
You guys mentioned that the R1 is one of two all-new open-class machines this year (the GSXR being the other) for your open class shootout. I hope that means your not leaving the 1098 out of the Superbike Shoot out this year. I'm highly interested in how it stacks up, especially now that the price is similar to the Japaneses 4's ($15,000 vs $11,600). | | Back to Top | | |
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louemc
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| Posted Today 11:04 AM (GMT -8) | |
Kevin Duke said...
louemc said...
I'm not at all comfortable with the chassis changes over all Lou, you continue to wear your preconceptions on your sleeve. Is it the reduced frame and swingarm stiffness that has you worried? Does it matter to you that riders faster than you or I have determined the revisions to be an improvement?
Umm, "worried" is making up something I didn't say. First I said the design changes were "interesting" then I said, I'm not at all comfortable with them, and it will take the feedback of a lot of riders in the whole spectrum of riding to prove out the changes. That's the whole thing, it's going to take real people in the whole real range of conditions, to find out what the reduced stiffness means. Chassis stiffness is a very hard to pin down thing in rightness or wrongness. It can't be too stiff (losses compliance and forgiveness) and not stiff enough creates lack of precision and escalating/self feeding wags/wobbles/and worse. And the tires and suspension are varibles and what different riders put their bike through are varibles.
I'm repeatedly surprised that you can't read what I write,right. But, that's just the way the mop flops.
No it does not matter to me that riders faster than me, riding some where other than I ride, say something different, than what I would say. Given it's coming from a different way a bike is used, it would have to be different. Their best and my best, are two different bests. That shouldn't be difficult to understand.
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louemc
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| Posted Today 11:53 AM (GMT -8) | |
Desmolicious said...
louemc said...
I'm repeatedly surprised that you can't read what I write,right. Raise your hand, who else here has difficulty following Lou?
Happy Thanksgiving buddy!
Happy ThanksGiving to everyone (except the Turkeys)  Of course most people would have difficulty in following in what I'm talkin about, if they haven't studied engine/chassis technology, and built race stuff (a lot of it had four wheels) and raced, then they wouldn't know (or picture) what my words are saying. I'm not talkin to everyone, but everyone is welcome to read it. What I write won't be received the same across the spectrum of readers, That's a given, but, anyone notice that it's super rare that a highly experienced member will dis-agree with me? 
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RedDog
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| Posted 11/30/2006 9:50 AM (GMT -8) | | You're right on with what you write. All these new changes - are they for real, I mean what do we gain? When real riders start testing and some bike is winning, we know the lust will be on track.
If you do a little SWOT analysis (Strengths, Weakness, Opportunities (upgrades) and Threats a modern sportbike has come so far that full credits served in the power/performance area, OK some fine tuning may be needed. But many will need some enhancements in the useable area, like lights (!), comfort including for the pillion. Sore butts seems to come quick on some bikes, sore wrists, vibrations in pegs and one of my favorites:
Many has started to, and this is a change from my past, quit riding after sunset. I meet riders all the time that says: "Need to get home before the darkness." There is something great riding at night, even unique with the heat of a pillion clinging to you. Back in 73 I added powerful addtional lights to my Yamaha 750 twin, to see. Lights that spreads way into the sides of the roads and also throw millions of candles way, way ahead where I want to go flashing up these reflective eyes of moose and deer - that's what I want. Even the car industry have fathomed that including the Gold Wing (!).
There's room for comfort upgrades on a sporty bike. In the meantime I ride my Gixxer 10000 which is the best sport touring bike I have ever encountered.
RedDog 
Travel Light & Leave Your Fears Behind You!
Normal People Scare me!
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motorwerks919
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Total Posts : 341
| Posted 2/28/2007 7:41 PM (GMT -8) | | | So this bike looks 100 times worse, weighs more, has a crappy slipper clutch, and still no bottom end. I would rather have the previous version! | | Back to Top | | |
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Superlight
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| Posted 3/1/2007 5:03 AM (GMT -8) | | | Looks to me like the fight in the Open class will be between the new GSX-R and the 1098. And I hope the 1098 wins. | | Back to Top | | |
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jimmihaffa
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Total Posts : 217
| Posted 3/1/2007 9:28 AM (GMT -8) | | | All the press to this point on the 07 R1 has been on how much more bottom end and midrange grunt the motor has than the previous rendition, but the dyno curves don't bear this out. Honestly, those are shockingly soft numbers. I thought this bike would be a world beater yet by the looks of it its going to have less motor than the even the carryover models of other manufacturers. | | Back to Top | | |
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