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   Posted 5/24/2007 10:47 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The boys at MCN give us the inside scoop on the eagerly anticipated Ducati Hypermotard after turning laps at the track with World Superbike star Ruben Xaus. Check out the 2008 Ducati Hypermotard - First Ride and let us know what you think.

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   Posted 5/24/2007 12:39 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
OMG. Better not show that pic to Lou, he'll never believe it.

Something in my pants got happy with that review; I don't think it was my wallet though!


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   Posted 5/24/2007 12:44 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Eh, it's a Ducati. What could I say?...
(I guess I could say for the same money as this finished like a jewel work of art you could get a BMW F800 but, I won't).
If I didn't just buy an 800SS for a g/f to ride...(don't worry the title is in my name!).


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   Posted 5/24/2007 12:45 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wrong again Johnny lol , I do believe, when it involves somone that knows how to ride a bike.


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   Posted 5/24/2007 12:49 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Johnny Monsoon said...
OMG. Better not show that pic to Lou, he'll never believe it.
Y? The high quality streetfighter/supermono type bike (i.e. no cheap non adjustable crappy suspension etc etc) is what Lou has been saying all mfgs should be making.


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   Posted 5/24/2007 1:07 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
 Beauty meets Perfection. Form meets Function. Traffic meets Cuisineart. Only Ducati Can! hop
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   Posted 5/24/2007 4:15 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
nice write up but i could never see myself spending that much money for some so ugly and i know beauty is in the eye of the be..........so to each his own.
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   Posted 5/24/2007 6:25 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well, it's gonna be pricey. But I feel compelled to perform the HM vs. SD throw-down. It's close on paper but the real fun is gonna come from actually doing it. I've been practin' up on my crazy french man style corner entries on the Duke, but I'm not sure I'll partake in Rubens antics. But then again, you just never know?
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   Posted 5/24/2007 8:50 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
roll Damn!! That's impressive!! Looks "goofy", but sh!*!! Bet it's obscene fun...

What are the torque numbas?? "Gobs/ bunches/ lots" ain't sayin' nuttin', champ. Good writeup, though. And gettin' to see nut-job Xaus, one of my faves, wring it out musta been stupendous.

I think the attached pic [sigh/] belongs in the "MC Porn" thread in Sportbike...


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   Posted 5/25/2007 7:09 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jesus, as if I didn't already know how much more skill Superbike riders have then myself you guys go and post this photo of Xaus:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Photos/96784Xaus.jpg

I honestly feel as though I'm not longer worth of riding a bike now. Thanks.
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   Posted 5/25/2007 7:50 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Cool bike. It's like a motard/standard and priced as such. More than the motards and cheaper than the superstandards like the Toruno and Super Duke. I like it but would go for the 6 grand suzuki and not worry when I dent it doing something I shouldn't. I mean that's what this bikes are supposed to be about.


 

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   Posted 5/25/2007 7:54 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
r u comparing a 400cc single cyclinder suzi to the SuperMotard? wow
"not worry when I dent it doing something I shouldn't." that could apply to any bike and any riding that you're doing. Why get the Suzi 400 for $6k? What if you dent that, makes much better sense to get a $1k beater and think of all the money you'd be saving if you dent that...


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   Posted 5/25/2007 7:58 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
100 mile range? That is a bit of a bummer. Anybody want to take a stab at expected mpg?
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   Posted 5/25/2007 8:02 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Looks neat, but from my point of view, the Super Duke has it all over the Duc.
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   Posted 5/25/2007 10:15 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Someone said, Something about the cost (I'm way to lazy to scroll up to see who) Let me say this regarding the money. Until you have partaken in high end sporting motorcycles you really shouldn't knock them. Some things are expensive because they're expensive (Levi 501's come to mind. The $13.00 costco pants last twice as long but there's no red tab) Other things are expensive because they cost more to build at a component level. Some things are expensive because they are special. My recent reintroduction to the concept was my '06 SMR 510 Husky. I owned a DRZ 400 and MAN! was it fun! It was a glorious return to the late seventies blazing around town on my BMX bike hunting for ways to screw around and defy gravity, but it lacked a certain something. I went on a mission to try and upgrade the bike to make it more "Zippy?" Soon, after some research it became eveident that in order to make what I wanted I'd need to spend another $4000 in addition to the $5500 I'd given for the bike to get to where I thought I needed to be. A friend of mine is an MV/Husqvarna/Cagiva dealer and hooked me up with a 510 SMR for $7000 out the door. Right out of the box the bike was incredible; the brakes, the forks and the rip-snortin motor came together to make a bike that I had imagined the DRZ would have been had I spent the time and money to make the modifications and it was like 50 pounds lighter. The best part was I had it all right from the start. I used the Husky for about a year and sold it for $5700 to someone who seems to be equally appreciative of it's character. Regardless of how well I had performed the modifications to the DRZ, my $9500 investment would have dwindled back to the $4500 DRZ's are selling for regardless of the components or state of tune. The modifications would have only been special to me. Bikes like the SD and the HM are for people who want a specific something in the increasingly fewer miles they get to spend out riding. I ride to practice my skills and to forget about everything even if it's just for a little while. The Super Duke and I'm Sure the Hypermotard seem to be based on the grins/per mile equation. Something that, at this stage in life, I put a HIGH priority on. I started my illustrious self-employed motorcycle based career 20 years ago with $350 and a small hand carried tool box full of tools. I continue to work hard to be able to afford the few nice things that my wife and I have (the most expensive being my three pain-in-the-ass daughters :) If it takes $14,000 plus fees to Put a big POOP-Eatin grin on my face everytime I thumb the starter button, well then, I guess that's what I gotta pay.
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   Posted 5/25/2007 10:42 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Desmolicious said...
r u comparing a 400cc single cyclinder suzi to the SuperMotard?

 

Not compairing because they are very different. But if I was using my money for that style bike I would go for the Suz. I guess I would not be taking chances on a bike that cost that much hence it would not be as much fun. I'm sure it's a great bike but not for me. If I want a sportbike I'll buy a sportbike, motard and so on. 
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   Posted 5/25/2007 10:45 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Nice points Nef. Reminds me of the pre-2008 KLR 650. Some peeps claim they are such a great deal, but only so if you want a really medicore bike. I had one. To make it "worthy" for someone who appreciates how bikes should work, you gotta pile cash into it with the end result that you coulda bought something like a KTM that was sorted properly straight from the get go, is lighter and still outperforms it in every possible way.
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   Posted 5/25/2007 12:52 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Moto-Pat said...
Desmolicious said...

r u comparing a 400cc single cyclinder suzi to the SuperMotard?

Not compairing because they are very different. But if I was using my money for that style bike I would go for the Suz. I guess I would not be taking chances on a bike that cost that much hence it would not be as much fun. I'm sure it's a great bike but not for me. If I want a sportbike I'll buy a sportbike, motard and so on.




It can be looked at in the exact opposite way though. If one is driven to pursue and excell at that activity, they want the best tool for the job. Cost is only a vague term, like silly putty it gets shaped by priorities. Pushing to gain a skill, is a taking chances, measured and built on, will be pretty crash free, just not guaranteed. Between the priorities and determination etc it takes that, to get there. (so it becomes a question, "do I want to get there?").


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   Posted 5/25/2007 4:22 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey NefariousD - Excellent summary of the differences between the two design philosophies of Husqvarna and Suzuki (or is that Europe and Japan Inc.) and the reasons riders choose one over the other. Husqvarna and KTM and Bimota and MV Agusta and Aprilia and Ducati seem to sell 'hard' bikes in certain categories that the Japanese overlook. The Japs make pretty impressive sportbikes and motocrossers but when it comes to the supermoto category or adventure category they hold back and domesticate the things. I just put 150 kms on a KTM Superduke three days ago -- highway, bumpy backroads, smooth but tight twisties, traffic jockeying -- and I still can't get over it. Such a hotrod, such sweet handling. If the vibrations hadn't made my old ass numb I would have purchased the bike on the spot. I still hold out for a bike like this that can carry me 300 miles at one go without physical damage. Right now I'm looking at seat options for the KTM. Man, I wish Suzuki would take their old TL1000 engine and plug it in a chassis like the KTM's. That was one smooth V-twin. By the sounds of the review the Ducati sounds good; time will tell how it stacks up against the KTM or BMW. I wonder about one thing in the review where the writer is talking about the critical difference between the weight of the Hypermotard and the Multistrada and how that relates to engine performance. He says: "In the relatively heavy Multistrada 1100 it never really delivers - there's a blast of low-down stomp then it fizzles out and fun-time is over." So if you happen to weigh 37.48 pounds more than the reviewer you are going to get what he calls fizzled out performance; it would "never really deliver...". It would be the same as adding the weight to the bike. As everyone knows, the engine is actually pushing the weight of the bike plus rider. The Hypermotard is 395 lbs. empty plus rider, say 180 lbs. equals 575lbs. Multistrada is supposedly 37 and a half lbs. heavier, so that is 575 plus 37.5 equaling 612.5 lbs. One more thing: Hypermotard carries 3.28 gallons of gas, that equals approx. 20 lbs. Multistrada carries 5.3 gallons of gas equaling 32.3 lbs. So now we have an engine pulling 595 lbs. versus one pulling 625 lbs. This amounts to a 5% difference in what the two engines are actually pulling. While I'm genuinely excited about the Ducati Hypermotard I wonder if a 5% difference is all that noticeable or whether this is journalistic enthusiasm. I'm thinking the smaller-displacement, higher-powered KTM might be a much more noticeable difference. The KTM Superduke horsepower figures are 33% more than those for the Hypermotard. The weight is 11lbs. higher but with 180 lb. rider and approx. 4 gallons of fuel at 24 lbs. that's 609 lbs. Which means a 2.5% heavier bike pulled by a 33% more powerful engine. Should be no contest. Power to weight ratios with rider: 5.1 KTM, 7 Multistrada, 6.6 Hypermotard
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   Posted 5/25/2007 6:16 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The Euro bike companies make and market the models they do because Motard and Street Fighter are Euro creations and a rage over there. If Americans will ever get their head out, things will pick up over here. Even if a Japanese brand made something in that line (OK Suzuki makes a DRZ400 SuperMoto SM, big deal it's a 400 and doesn't sell real hot) don't expect it to be sold in America.

That should change in a couple years (maybe).


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   Posted 5/27/2007 2:39 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Awesome!

Pretty cool. Looking forward to seeing one in real life.

Oh, and I feel like I just HAVE to say it, I'm still totally loving my "mediocre" KLR650! I had no idea giving up a hundred horses would be SO MUCH fun! smilewinkgrin


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   Posted 5/27/2007 6:04 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
wow. really cool looking at the picture, the one Ruben Xaus posing on it.


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   Posted 5/27/2007 6:40 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
No doubt that dude can ride; I have a feeling he goes to 'motorcycle' like we go to work... except he enjoys his work, a lot.


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   Posted 5/27/2007 1:51 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I was lucky enough to see the one they had at the Ducati getup at Daytona (see the picture below) and have to say that it's definitely a work of art. It's a lot like the 999 was when it first came out......it's hard to get a good feel for it in pictures.....you ahve to see it to appreciate it.
 
I've been fortunate enough to see Dukes and a Super Duke, but have to say that the HyperMotard was the only one that got my blood boiling.
 
Yes, I'm a Ducati guy, but to me the HyperMotard is the one that leans more towards the street/sportbike side of the supermotard styling. The Duke seems like a dirtbike with street tires. The HyperMotard doesn't give me that feeling.....to quote a oft-used cliche, it just looks fast.
 
I love the supermotard look, but the HyperMotard is probably the only one that's gotten me actually thinking about it.


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   Posted 5/27/2007 5:44 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dangaranga, I like those rear view mirrors better everytime I see them. The Modesto Ducati Dealer better get that bike in, and on the floor, so I can see if they (the hand guard /mirrors) can fit on my 10. Just getting saved from one ticket would pay for them. So getting them is like getting them for free :-)


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