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bmadson
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Posted 7/23/2007 6:59 AM (GMT -8)

We test the Triple-powered Triumph tourer over a thousand-plus miles of our favorite byways to discover in the Sprint lives up to its ST moniker. Check out our review on the 2007 Triumph Sprint ST.

Moto-Pat
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Posted 7/23/2007 7:39 AM (GMT -8)

Thanks, good right up. Always like the ST and the red is sweet. The sporty ST's fit my needs well. If I ever sell the Viffer that's probably the way I'll go. Hopefully the Viffer will get an update and Aprila will start producing a new Furtura soon, through in a updated ST-3 and you've got your sporty ST comparo line up.

Triumph lists the ABS version at 469 lbs. That's a 54 lb difference from your scales. Those bags must be heavy.

Post Edited (Moto-Pat) : 7/23/2007 3:47:48 PM GMT

Desmolicious
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Posted 7/23/2007 10:58 AM (GMT -8)

The Ducati St bikes are no more. No more Aprilia Futura. VFR apparently is not coming back to the USA. So all that is left is the Triumph, and, umm, since BMW is not bringing back the R1200St, that's it for SPORT tourers.
So it's going to be a choice of bigger sport TOURERS like the FJR1300, Concours 14, St13, R12RT, Norge; 'hybrids' like the Multistrada, Tiger, standard GS or roll your own..

Børk! Børk! Børk!

Ada Ada
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Posted 7/23/2007 12:41 PM (GMT -8)

You didn't mention the age of the currrent design. I think it's a efw years old. Maybe just a bit dated for my new-bike dollars.

Moto-Pat
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Posted 7/23/2007 12:46 PM (GMT -8)

Desmolicious said...
The Ducati St bikes are no more. No more Aprilia Futura. VFR apparently is not coming back to the USA.

So your saying the ST-3 is gone for 08? I knew the Futura was gone but they did well with that bike you would think they would update it. I hadn't heard the VFR was gone for U.S., that would be a suprise beings they sell very well here. It just hasn't changed much since 02.

The big jumbo ST's are nice but you loose a lot of fun with something that big and the sky high seats of the new adventure bikes don't work for me. But rolling my own is just fine with me.

Moto-Pat
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Posted 7/23/2007 12:49 PM (GMT -8)

I think it was a late 05 release. So it's not that old in Sport Touring years. There not like the 600 sport bikes that get total redesigns every 2 years.

Ada Ada said...
You didn't mention the age of the currrent design. I think it's a efw years old. Maybe just a bit dated for my new-bike dollars.

ccrider
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Posted 7/23/2007 6:00 PM (GMT -8)

I've been waiting for your Sprint ST Test ever since it was announced. I have an '02 Honda VFR and I just sold a red '06 Triumph Daytona 675. I love the 675 triple engine and the handling of the 675 but the ergonomics weren't bearable for much over 150 miles. I have really been thinking about replacing the VFR with a Sprint which I hoped would give me the best of the 675 without the pain. After reading your test, I think I will stick with the VFR until someone comes out with a suitable replacement in the light-heavy weight ST catagory. The FJR, ST1300 and the Concours 14 are just too big for my needs.

My ideal bike would be a 675 ST from Triumph. Or if Suzuki would make a ST version of the GSXR 750. The VFR community keeps hoping for an update of the VFR but Honda don't seem to be too interested. When & if they do update the VFR, it will probably only be available in European markets where the Interceptor sells much better than the US market. confused

TheWall67
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Posted 7/23/2007 7:47 PM (GMT -8)

Nice review on the Sprint ST. Personally I like these bare bones sport tourers. Keep all the bells and whistles for the two wheeled boats like the FJR's, ST1300, and Beemers. Give me a sport bike I can ride 500 miles a day on and still be able to let 'er rip on the fun roads and I'm happy. That's why I bought my Ducati ST3 (I did consider the Sprint ST pretty seriously but I was hot for a Duc). Shame there isn't more demand for this style bike. My only complaint is I wish they could keep them down to no more than 500lbs.

Hey, watch this...

flickmeister
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Posted 7/23/2007 9:09 PM (GMT -8)

ccrider,

Have you thought about the Triumph 1050 Tiger or Ducati Multistrada 1100?

ccrider
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Posted 7/24/2007 3:51 AM (GMT -8)

The Tiger is a possibility; I rode one recently and the only problem was the transmission which was rather "clunky" compared to the Daytona 675 which was the best I've ever used. I prefer the style of the ST or VFR but I might get used to the adventure-tour style, especially the comfort factor of the high bars & upright riding position. I have some doubts about the dealer net work and service for Triumph. This can occur with the the big 4 but there's always a different dealer in the next town which is not the case with Triumph.

The Ducati is out because of cost and very limited dealerships in my area; the nearest ones are around 100 miles from me.

Kenny
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Posted 7/24/2007 7:32 AM (GMT -8)

Well CC and Flick, we are currently working on the Adventure Touring compaison with the new Tiger 1050, Multistrada 1100S, V-Strom and GS. After that we should be redy to tackle the Sport Touring comparos you folks are asking for by putting the Sprint ST, FJR, Concours and ??? (Any suggestions). Maybe the K1200R or something along those lines for number four would be a good fit.

I like to think of Jesus like, with giant eagles wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm hammered drunk!

ccrider
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Posted 7/24/2007 9:39 AM (GMT -8)

I think the Sprint is almost in a class by itself, closer to the VFR and the ST3. I think the heavy weight sport tour has to include the FJR, ST1300 and the Concours 14 and one of the BMW's. I'm looking for a SPORT - Tour bike, Not a TOUR - Sport machine. And it also needs to be comfortable. I don't think I should have to give up comfort to get handling and a performance engine. Again, the GSXR 750 with bars above the triple clamps, lower pegs and a sub frame to mount hard bags is the perfect ST bike( and none of the crap they usually do like "retuned for more mid range" and cheap suspension when they revise a good sport bike for other uses) nono

Desmolicious
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Posted 7/24/2007 12:58 PM (GMT -8)

Kenny said...
Well CC and Flick, we are currently working on the Adventure Touring compaison with the new Tiger 1050, Multistrada 1100S, V-Strom and GS.

No KTM Adventure???

Børk! Børk! Børk!

Desmolicious
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Posted 7/24/2007 1:03 PM (GMT -8)

Moto-Pat said...

Desmolicious said...
The Ducati St bikes are no more. No more Aprilia Futura. VFR apparently is not coming back to the USA.

Yup, St3 is no more. The VFR is a terrible seller in the US, dealers that do have them have new, several years old models gathering dust in their warehouses. Not a knock on the bike, but the reality of the market in the US, which is why Aprilia and Ducati have given up on the same segment and BMW has given up with it's r1200st.

Børk! Børk! Børk!

Otter1
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Posted 7/24/2007 3:20 PM (GMT -8)

I am totally shocked that Ducati is not keeping the ST-3! I was considering the Sprint vs. the ST-3 as a new bike this Christmas. I very much liked the article and video. I have riden the Sprint and love the triples sound!! I also rode a Tiger and it did not have the same character. Maybe the muffler can be changed to an aftermarked one that sounds better. BTW -CCrider -- have you considered the Yamaha FZ-1? (Plenty of power, good seating/handlebar position, yamaha reliablity, suspension excellent, etc.)

feliz
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Posted 7/24/2007 3:29 PM (GMT -8)

I wouldn't compare the Sprint to the FJR or ST1300, the Sprint's competition is the VFR and F800, compare oranges to oranges. The heavyweights have adjustable screens, seats, and bars, have shaft drive plus storage pockets, and weigh 670+ pounds. The engine on the Sprint is worth the price of admission alone but after a few test rides rides I find sitting on top of three exhaust pipes a little too warm. The F800 costs more, has less power, smaller cases, but handles better, is lighter, has a belt drive and three year warranty. Comfort is subjective, I had an 06 FJR that was a delightful bike but I couldn't ride it for more than an hour or so (knees, wrists, shoulders) and unfortunately had to move on.

flickmeister
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Posted 7/25/2007 2:50 AM (GMT -8)

Kenny,

There are those that will think I'm nutso, but I swear a GSXR1000 is comfortable enough to SPORTtour on even with the stock bars and windscreen. Ventura makes an excellent soft luggage package that will give plenty of room. If you were inclined, you could do the Heli-bars and a double bubble windscreeen and bring it along for when the other sporttourers are lulling you to sleep. Better yet, invite me along and I'll bring my K6 Gixxer thou' for the youngest old fart's perspective you will ever find.....

flickmeister
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Posted 7/25/2007 3:13 AM (GMT -8)

Kenny,

For the maximum "bang-for-the-buck: crowd, how 'bout throwing the Bandit 1250 with some soft luggage into the ring? You sure couldn't ask for a torquier, more user friendly motor (except, of course, my Gixxer 1000 with me aboard to keep her claws and fangs in check). Cheers, Jack

Ada Ada
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Posted 7/25/2007 8:13 AM (GMT -8)

Kenny said...
... Sport Touring comparos ...the Sprint ST, FJR, Concours and ??? (Any suggestions

?...

Don't you dare do it without the Moto Guzzi Norge. If you do, like you once left out the Tiger from an adventurer comparo (because you couldn't get a free bike?) I'm going to be an unhappy camper.

Desmolicious
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Posted 7/25/2007 9:39 AM (GMT -8)

If yer gonna include the FJR etc, include the Beemer r12rt and k12gt.

Børk! Børk! Børk!

TheWall67
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Posted 7/25/2007 8:36 PM (GMT -8)

I really think you need two comparo's. One for the 600+ lbs bikes and one for the sub 550lbs. IMO people buying one over the other are looking for very different things in a sport tourer.

Hey, watch this...

Moto-Pat
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Posted 7/26/2007 10:34 AM (GMT -8)

Desmolicious said...

They sell well in Austin. The dealer here usually tries to keep two in stock, with that said Austin is not typical of the U.S. because of the location.

Sounds like the ST will be the last of the breed. Of course in a few years the manufacture will come out with the brand new exciting light weight ST class like it's all new. I'm okay with that.

GAJ
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Posted 7/26/2007 12:07 PM (GMT -8)

I have an F800ST and absolutely love it.

Weight is below 450lbs and the low center of gravity due to gas tank under seat is an absolute revelation. Power is nowhere near that of the Triumph, but more than enough for any road application.

Pricey if you add ABS, bags, tire monitors, center stand, but so are most bikes with those options.

First bike I've owned that needs zero modifications and the one I would keep if I could have only one.

Big power like the Triumph is intoxicating, however, as I was reminded today when I rode my TL1000s to work today.

Desmolicious
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Posted 7/27/2007 1:20 PM (GMT -8)

Turn key sport-tourers may be a dying breed, but one can still roll your own with the new Bandit 1250 and Yam FZ1.

Børk! Børk! Børk!

2Fast4FatGuys
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Posted 7/28/2007 7:36 AM (GMT -8)

Guys - love the written review..BUT:

Whats up with the video? Who thought it would be a good idea to shake the camera and speed up the audio? There should be a text crawl at the beginning that says "WARNING: this motorcycle review may cause SEIZURES". Did the editor just buy a new effects package and was dying to try it out? It totally sucks.

And while we're on sucking - next time you hire him to narrate, could you please give Frankenstein a double expresso before he starts talking? I mean seriously, does the guy who's doing the voice over have a serious head injury? This guy should get a job doing Funeral Home commercials.

Please stick to watchable videos without bad shred metal soundtracks, narrated by people with a pulse? Too much to ask???

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