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bmadson
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| Posted 12/19/2007 1:25 PM (GMT -8) |   | | While it is the most powerful and sport-focused BMW for years, does new BMW HP2 Sport justify a hefty price tag? The boys at MCN lend us another great test, check out the 2008 BMW HP2 Sport - First Ride | | Back to Top | | |
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GAJ
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| Posted 12/19/2007 4:12 PM (GMT -8) | | Very well written review of a very capable sporty street bike for the elite of wallet.
I refuse to spend more than $25k for a car let alone a moto, but it's great to see the "new" younger minded BMW push the envelope.
I mean it was only, what, 5 years ago that they figured out dropping 50+ pounds from their bikes might be a good thing. | | Back to Top | | |
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Somec
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| Posted 12/19/2007 9:41 PM (GMT -8) | | nice writeup, yet again the unrivaled 'expressive' reviewed by the britsh..always a great read.
It's good to see yet again something new and different in the sportbike arena. If only I were a wealthy fellow.. | | Back to Top | | |
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J Pete
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| Posted 12/20/2007 1:52 PM (GMT -8) | | | The value question for me is like watch prices. A very few $s will acuately tell you the time, after that it is about how it tells you the time and what other enjoyment you get from it. This new Beemer, like the latest MVs, has justifiably costly components that can be enjoyed like fine art. You buy the print for a fraction of the cost but it just isn't the same as the original. | | Back to Top | | |
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GAJ
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| Posted 12/20/2007 2:09 PM (GMT -8) | | J Pete; are suject to the Alternative Minimum Tax???
My guess is yes. | | Back to Top | | |
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J Pete
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| Posted 12/21/2007 8:13 AM (GMT -8) | | GAJ
Actualy I am not subject to the AMT. I just appreciate artistic efforts like this new Beemer. I am with you on spending on cars and bikes. I always let those who have to have something new pay the premium. If the machine is really good new it will be really good in a few years when I can apprciate it for half the price. I once parked a Vincent in the living room when it wasn't on the road. Cost of living priorities shifted and it went. Only thing new that I would consider is the upcoming MV 500 Single. | | Back to Top | | |
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GAJ
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| Posted 12/21/2007 1:48 PM (GMT -8) | | I only wish I had a rich moto mad friend.
THAT would be sweet. | | Back to Top | | |
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GAJ
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| Posted 12/26/2007 10:44 AM (GMT -8) | | Stay away from the "improved ABS with rear wheel lift detection;" it sure don't work on the mildly powered f800 so I gottal believe it would truly suck on this lighter and vastly more powerful bike.
If it detects "rear wheel lift or hop" it takes away your front brakes...'cause it knows better! | | Back to Top | | |
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Superlight
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| Posted 12/28/2007 6:53 AM (GMT -8) | | I am not a BMW fan in general, but I applaud this effort. Any time a manufacturer goes for "best-in-class" they have my attention; something good usually results. BMW's difficulty may be in defining the class; its not a pure sportbike, more like a GT in the car world, like an Aston Martin or Jaguar.
I find it interesting to hear the moans and groans about pricing, same as you hear about Ducatis and MVs. Have you whiners priced any cars lately, especially something different and high=performance? Even the econoibox-based Evo and STi will set you back $35k, not to mention real sports cars. We are lucky in the motorcycle world - very special machines are being sold at a fraction of what they would cost in a four-wheeled equivalent. | | Back to Top | | |
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louemc
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| Posted 12/28/2007 11:10 AM (GMT -8) | |
Superlight said...
I am not a BMW fan in general, but I applaud this effort. Any time a manufacturer goes for "best-in-class" they have my attention; something good usually results. BMW's difficulty may be in defining the class; its not a pure sportbike, more like a GT in the car world, like an Aston Martin or Jaguar.
I find it interesting to hear the moans and groans about pricing, same as you hear about Ducatis and MVs. Have you whiners priced any cars lately, especially something different and high=performance? Even the econoibox-based Evo and STi will set you back $35k, not to mention real sports cars. We are lucky in the motorcycle world - very special machines are being sold at a fraction of what they would cost in a four-wheeled equivalent.
That's sure true, Superlight, on pricing. I hadn't been in the Honda car dealership for at least a year, and popped in to check suspension component prices. When I bought my 02 Honda CRV the price was $25,000 and very close to the price on any choice on the floor (different types). I walked past what they had on the floor, a couple weeks ago and the price was $35,000 for the current cars/SUV's.
I can't get over the whinning on bike prices, I guess the whinners haven't tried to build their own, so they have no idea what a bargain they get in a package from the factory. Or.... whinning is just a way of life?
Focus the forces, Be The Force | | Back to Top | | |
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GAJ
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| Posted 12/28/2007 12:15 PM (GMT -8) | | Truly, with the way the dollar/euro relationship has gone, euro prices are quite reasonable.
20 years ago my K75S listed for about $8 grand, (a ton of dough I thought at the time), while the F800ST I picked up last week listed out at about $11 grand. Similar bikes in terms of market segment and only $3 grand difference in 20 years.
Quite remarkable really. | | Back to Top | | |
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BikesTrikes4EVER
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| Posted 5/9/2008 7:27 AM (GMT -8) | | Ok.....lets think this one out?
How in the world can we call this rehashed lump of "Fugly" a sports bike?
Yes, the Germans can build machinery like no other, give them that. They in my opinion produce some of the most advance moto parts in the cycle world, but they don't know jack when it come to style in most of their bikes.
30 thousand for what? Parking it in front of Starbucks.... Borders.....Barns and Noble.....maybe at Gramps so as to allow the Gizzer fond memories?
Now the $K1200S$ is kicker in which I wish beyond reason I could own. Great lines, power, road hugging marvel and just plane fun sitting in the garage looking at it's beauty! I sometimes walk into local dealer just to chech it out...what a bike!
HP2 Sport.....no my friends, one can add all the slick tricks and media hype and it still wouldn't be a sports bike!
Just another limited line to sparkle some SuperBuck colletor's line of oddball bikes.
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BikesTrikes4EVER
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| Posted 5/10/2008 8:36 AM (GMT -8) | |
sfarson said...
BikesTrikes4EVER said...
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HP2 Sport.....no my friends, one can add all the slick tricks and media hype and it still wouldn't be a sports bike!
Just another limited line to sparkle some SuperBuck colletor's line of oddball bikes.
BT4E Tell the preceding to racers in the Rocky Mountain MRA GTO Supertwins series aboard Ducati 1098's, 999's, Aprilia Milles, etc who came behind Brad Hendry aboard his R1200S last year.
Sir, really have point out the write up was about the STREET...thereby, lets keep it there or this topic will turn into how many manufactures have and havn't won in the past 100 years?
Yes, Ducati's of every sort just may have their day on the track.
I've been on a Ducati 900 series bike I believe was a 996(?) on the day it was bought by My Bud's son. Couldn't believe the amount of foot pounds during the first 100 ft. and continued power thereafter!
Just one problem.....felt I was riding a Kids BMX that nearly vibrated my crowns loose!
6'2"@200# was not a good matchup for a 52in. WB race type machine?
During one of the local sportbike meetings in the Inland Empire, saw a great looking Red1098 parked along side a Busa....1098 looked like a X600X (Any bike) series bike in comparison?
K1200S, Ninja14, Hayabusa and the R1's just have that "Fire and Sword" in my lone opinion...just jazz's me up!
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sfarson
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| Posted 5/10/2008 6:41 PM (GMT -8) | | Huh? Please translate.
I just responded to your inaccurate claim the HP2 Sport isn't a sportbike. | | Back to Top | | |
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BikesTrikes4EVER
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| Posted 5/11/2008 7:31 AM (GMT -8) | | GeoffG said...BikesTrikes4EVER said...
Ok.....lets think this one out?
How in the world can we call this rehashed lump of "Fugly" a sports bike?...Now the $K1200S$ is kicker in which I wish beyond reason I could own. Great lines, power, road hugging marvel and just plane fun sitting in the garage looking at it's beauty! You're kidding, right? I'm with sfarson, the R1200S is every bit a "sportbike," in fact moreso than the K1200S IMO. How anyone can suggest the K1200S has "great lines," then in the same breath call the R1200S a "rehashed lump of Fugly" is beyond me. Both of these are a bit too freight-trainish for me, but if I had to choose one it would be the R1200S, no hesitation at all!
Whoa.....whats with R1200S jumping in the topic? Did I miss something here? Thought the write up was about HP2?
Come on Dude.....K1200S and R12000S have nothing in common and wasn't in the mix!
Look....Why don't we just bring everyone's wet dream and hash it out!
My wet dream is both Busa and K1200S, period! Busa (59WB) for its lines and power, K1200S (61WB) for its beauty and perfection.
And most of all, in which most of my adult riding life, a certain hardship riding bikes the don't look like "Pocket Bikes" plus being so long arm and stretch legged going down the road splayed out like a Praying Mantis!
Further more; look around and see what's on the street, be honest, where does this great appeal for FunFugly Bikes show itself? I've yet to witness one single $$FunFuglyBike$$ (Southern Cal) showing up to a Sport Bike run? The only time I witness such machinery in numbers are BMW groups riding together or meeting at Cook's Corner over-dosing on coffee and ice tea?
Again...apples and oranges and in my opinion.. the HP2/Potato!
Peace,
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