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Hilde44
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  		   Posted 12/23/2007 9:54 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It's been a long time coming, but since you've all been extra good about waiting Santa has brought our annual 250F MX shootout just in time for a stocking stuffer. Enjoy and Merry Christmas.
 
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  		   Posted 12/24/2007 5:06 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
where on earth are you getting those 450 like torque numbers for the bikes?
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  		   Posted 12/26/2007 4:52 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Where on earth, indeed! Wouldn't that have been somethin'? There was a communication mix-up on my part with the graphics department. The article should reflect the correct statistics now. Thanks for the catch.
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  		   Posted 12/26/2007 8:08 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What about KTM? Did they refuse to give you a test bike?

I am the foremost expert on my opinion.

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  		   Posted 12/26/2007 9:03 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"i smell fishy in the 2008 250F shootout", why they critisize the kawasaki KX250F black number plates? why they exclude the honda CRF250R weak spots(fussy jetting)? i think there is a favoritism or sabotage happened in the shootout. check out the other site who also making a shootout(dirtbikemagazine.com, motocross.com, dirtrider.com), you'll see the difference.
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  		   Posted 12/27/2007 8:51 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
KTM was invited to participate. They knew the dates and locations well in advance.

As for the black backgrounds, we're not criticizing, we love 'em! I've read the other shootouts as well and heard the complaints about Honda's finicky jetting. I even had a mental note to pay close attention, but I honestly never had an issue. I scoured my testers' notes and spoke to them all directly about any jetting issues with the Honda or the others and the only reports were the occasional bog with the KX-F and RM-Z. Honda's massive carb has earned a reputation for being troublesome, so I don't doubt that it can be. We just didn't have any.
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  		   Posted 12/27/2007 1:58 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If someone creates an account and starts criticizing the site immediately, that is not helpful. I have read mc-usa every day for four years, and you provide great content.

I am the foremost expert on my opinion.

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  		   Posted 12/27/2007 2:57 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks for being a loyal reader, OhioSteve. It is kinda 'fishy' when somebodies first post says 'hey, I don't agree with what you're saying, go check out these sites.'
We're open to criticism - in fact, we rely on your feedback in the forum to let us know what we did right and what we need to work on in the future, but if the jetting on the Honda is the only detraction on an otherwise stellar bike, then that one discrepancy is not enough to override the overall findings of our test.

Be sure to check out the For My Money section. Though a bike doesn't nail down 'best bike' laurels, a lot of times it still suits a particular riding style or has a better feel for a tester than the others. If dred would have read this part of the test he would have noticed that JC picked the Kawi as the bike of choice for his money.

We would have loved to include the KTM. It's a formidable piece of off-road machinery, but sometimes the cards just don't all fall in place. Hopefully we can get a little love from KTM in the future and see how they stack up against the Japanese shredders.
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  		   Posted 12/27/2007 5:16 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It was a nice surprise to come into work on Monday, a slow half day, and be able to waste away the time with a good article.  As a YZ250f owner, I'm sad it ended up at the bottom.  But I've only been riding in the dirt a year, and I don't think I could tell the difference anyway.  I bought the YZ for its reliability.  I've heard Yamaha may have a new motor for 09.

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