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|  bmadson MCUSA Scribbler

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 1038 | Posted 3/10/2008 1:48 PM (GMT -8) |   | | | |
 |  GAJ Registered Member
        Date Joined Jul 2007 Total Posts : 4763 | Posted 3/10/2008 4:43 PM (GMT -8) |   | Lots of "character" for 15 grand, and "iffy" fueling, bag operation, braking and handling to boot.
No thx.
But it IS absolutely gorgeous! | | Back to Top | | |
  |  GeoffG Harley Ninja!

       Date Joined Jun 2003 Total Posts : 9196 | Posted 3/10/2008 5:31 PM (GMT -8) |   | Thanks for the review, guys. I'm a bit disappointed--I quite like the Norge, from what I've seen of it, and I'm disappointed about the chassis and handling issues (lack of power doesn't bother me so much--I understand it's an air-cooled twin...)
But, that said, does the 08 Norge get the new 4-valve heads that I believe Guzzi is putting on the Griso for 08? Did the Norge you test have 2-valve or 4-valve heads? Just curious... | | Back to Top | | |
     |  GeoffG Harley Ninja!

       Date Joined Jun 2003 Total Posts : 9196 | Posted 3/11/2008 8:22 AM (GMT -8) |   | | | |
   |  Desmolicious Registered Member

       Date Joined Aug 2004 Total Posts : 4618 | Posted 3/11/2008 11:34 AM (GMT -8) |   | Apparently the suspension is also lacking, from comments of people that I know that have ridden it. Too soft, not enough damping. As far as Jon's comments, they're valid in as much that is how he feels. Fair enough. As far as Moto Guzzi, IMO they could be doing really well in the US but it seems that they just are self defeating. A nice looking but over weight, waaay underpowered ST for $15K? The Cali Vintage for $15K? Ducati has a similar bike (in the idea of a retro classic model) in the SportClassic GT for $10K. Ok, the Goose has hard bags and a shield but that's it. The Duc has way superior motor/handling package, for 50% less cost. Guzzi really needs to come to grips with reality with their pricing. That, and almost non existant dealer coverage spells for a tough time, no matter how good the product. I really like the Griso, but won't be buying one until the 8V motor that the rest of the world gets lands in it, and Guzzi looks like it actually cares about the US market with some dealer and customer support. Børk! Børk! Børk! | | Back to Top | | |
   |  Desmolicious Registered Member

       Date Joined Aug 2004 Total Posts : 4618 | Posted 3/12/2008 9:42 AM (GMT -8) |   | Why make any bike with decent brakes, decent fueling.decent power and decent handling then? Just because it's not Japanese is no excuse for mediocrity. Triumph, BMW, KTM, Ducati, MV Agusta don't seem to think so. But it is ok for Moto Guzzi to be mediocre? Guzzi has shown that they can do it right, the Griso with the 8V motor is apparently an outstanding bike. It is meant to handle really well, has great brakes, nice suspension, a powerful motor and it looks great. Of course, this bike is not avaiable in the US... Børk! Børk! Børk! | | Back to Top | | |
         |  louemc Registered Member

       Date Joined Mar 2003 Total Posts : 15451 | Posted 3/13/2008 9:59 AM (GMT -8) |   |
Jay Mack said...
This is really a silly observation. Is it supposed to strike fear in my heart? The brakes, the fueling and the power and handling are all fine on the Norge. You are comparing them to race bikes that have to pull back from 160 mph coming out of a chicane at Elkhart Lake. You often make these criticisms that are just misapplied. I toured the country on a 1976 R75/6 in 1980. It worked superbly, though didn't have half the power or handling or braking or looks the Norge has. Your criticisms just do not apply to what a bike needs to offer a great motorcycling experience in the real world.
Somewhere there is someone touring the world on a Zundapp and with the notion it works superbly.
Not everyone else should agree or be happy with it though.
Somewhere there is someone that rides a vintage bike, and it is just fine, in their mind.
Items like brakes, and suspension get evaluated, in wildly far ranging criteria. Thing is, when a crisis moment occures, as they can when distracted/not qualified to drive, drivers invade your safe space, with heavy metal, the "race brakes and suspension" are the difference between the biker (which of course has to know how to ride a bike) making the moves that save the day, or being a biker (which of course didn't bother to learn anything) on a bike with garden variety brakes and suspension, taking a trip to the hospital or morgue.
Ya don't have to be hauling down from race speed, to need the difference, Ya just have to have a reason that can come up anywhere any time.
So Desmo's opinion is valid, but of course not everyone will see that.
Focus the forces, Be The Force | | Back to Top | | |
 |  GAJ Registered Member
        Date Joined Jul 2007 Total Posts : 4763 | Posted 3/13/2008 10:27 AM (GMT -8) |   | I can see both sides of this argument; Motorcycle Consumer News rated one of my bikes, a '92 Nighthawk 750 as a complete piece of crap...but I loved it.
But, the one and only time I crashed it was after I'd upgraded the suspension and put on a fork brack and tried to ride it like a modern sportbike with good brakes front and rear, (it had a rear drum), on some well known twisties.
Hello barbed wire fence.
Wasn't the bike's fault, but still.......
Any time I see a Guzzi it does make me smile, however. | | Back to Top | | |
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