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   Posted 6/9/2008 9:42 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Triumph unleashes an all-new streetfighter motorcycling option for riders looking for something smaller and more managable than their iconic Speed Triple 1050. Follow along as MotorcycleUSA puts the 2008 Street Triple 675 through its paces.
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   Posted 6/9/2008 9:54 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I thought I was riding a sponge when I tried it back to back with the Shiver. Why anyone would get this when $1000 more gets you the superlative Daytona 675 is beyond me. The Aprilia Shiver I tested was much better planted, even with its nonadjustability. Find some more $ and get the Speed Triple or Daytona. I always scoffed at suspension complaints in reviews but this bike's springs are execrable and it's just pure corporate cynicism/cash mongering that allowed them to be put on an otherwise nice bike. Pass for me.
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   Posted 6/9/2008 12:26 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah, I'm not sure about this report. It casually mentions the too soft suspension but still says how great the bike is. The suspension is a crucial part of the bike and from other reports that I've read, they panned the bike because of how crap the suspension is. Sport Rider even mentioned that it would be smoked by a Kawi Versys and BMW F800.
Sure you can throw money at it and fix it, but if a much cheaper Versys can outhustle it on back roads...
Get a used Daytona 675, roll yer own street fighter.


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   Posted 6/9/2008 1:44 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Love it, this will be my next bike...but the rumored "r" model with adjustable suspension. Looks like a hoot to ride, which is why I ride in the first place.

My goal was always to have a street single/twin/triple/four and I had it briefly but my 3 cylinder K75S was sent to the scrap heap after putting a hole in the back right door of an 85 year old left hand turner's Toyota Corolla.

I'll never get rid of my TL1000s, so if my F800ST give me the "won't start" EWS BS just one more time, it's gone for one of these or the 'r' model...then I'll have a 1/2/3 and will be on the hunt for a 4-cylinder ST...likely the new and improved VFR whenever it comes out.

F800ST, you have been warned.
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   Posted 6/9/2008 2:06 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
still this is very much the sort of bike I like... it and the rumored "Tiger Cub" version are definitely on my radar screen
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   Posted 6/9/2008 2:38 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sorry to say GAJ, but I think your antenna ring will go again. It seems to affect all new BMWs judging by what I've read on other owner sites. A ridiculous situation.


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   Posted 6/9/2008 4:58 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Can the videos please include less boom boom music and more engine noise? I want to hear how that triple sounds.
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   Posted 6/9/2008 5:22 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

I can tell you exactly why it might be a better idea to buy a Street Triple rather than a Daytona 675. I owned a Daytona 675 for about 3 months and 2000 miles. I loved the engine and handling but the ergonomics were torture for more than a couple of hours. The heat from the exhaust insured rump roast on your right leg unless you were wearing leathers and moving more than 40 mph. The Daytona is a great track bike but the Street Triple is probably a lot better choice for all around riding.

Although the Versys isn't a naked bike, I would like to see a shootout between it, the Ducati 696 and the Street Triple. Too bad Honda doesn't import the new 599 with the  '07 CBR600RR based engine. The Tiger Cub will also be a great choice if it appears.

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   Posted 6/9/2008 10:06 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
This criticism of the suspension is sad to hear. When I was bike shopping a few years ago, one of the bikes on my radar was the Speed Four, which the Street Triple seems to emulate somewhat--but every report I read about the Four raved about the suspenders, saying they were exactly the same fully adjustable units used on the 600 Daytona at the time. In fact, the bike was basically a Daytona 600 (or was it TT600) without the fairings. Too bad Triumph didn't follow this same recipe with the Street Triple...
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   Posted 6/9/2008 10:47 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I've had the Street Triple since January (fushion white '08...same as tested here). 1400+ miles on it thus far. I LOVE this bike! I wanted to get away from the "sport bike" style. I fell in love with the way it fits me. The ergos are perfect for me (think of it as an agressive "standard" position). It's super light, nimble, and powerful enough for my 145 lb body. I don't find that it wheelies all that easily, though my yrs of MX has caused (instinctively) me to lean ONTO the front as I accelerate. The brakes are ok...and ONLY ok. One thing I don't like is that the short steering (lock to lock) negates it's small stature during parking. The shocks do stink. Again, due to my fly-weight, not many shock set ups work well for me so I learn to work with what I've got. Mine is also one of the "buzzy" ones (a minority) which annoys me. This bike makes more sense when you look at it as a sporty "standard" rather than a stripped down "race" bike. Although it shares it's lineage with the Daytona, the two are not the same. The frame is different in the the swing arm has different pivot point as well as different rake/trail. The pegs are mounted in different location too. The engine is tuned differently as well. It's a great bike for someone looking for a light weight street brawler that can handle sporty riding as well. With that in mind...it makes sense that Triumph didn't put higher-end bits on it as the majority of Street Triple riders are not looking for top performing handling (or they would be looking at the Daytona or other "sport" bike). It's got undeniable "character". Some like it....some don't. I LOVE it :-)
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   Posted 6/10/2008 5:42 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
To own one is to love one. 2500 miles so far and not one regret. All works well for my 144lb frame and riding style. A far better all around ride than the Shiver and the BMW IMHO. Kudos to Triumph for creating a truly great bike. I'm with Ken on the steering locks. That'd be my only real complaint. It's the most fun I've had on two wheels in years.
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   Posted 6/10/2008 11:25 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
   I've been axiously awaiting some tests and rider reviews on the Street Triple, sounds like a fun bike without the literbike size insurance premiums. I'm bummed to hear about the super cheap brakes and suspension. Too bad. Would it make sense to anyone else to convert a (used?) 675 Daytona to a "Naked"? Loose a lot of plastic, MX bars, Arrows low 3 into 1 exaust and (maybe) relocated footpegs - just an inch or so? The europeans have been converting sportbikes to streetfighters for years, usually starting with a crashed bike (read: no plastic). The only hard part it seems to me would be finding or fabbing the top triple clamp for a MX type handlebar. Opinions anybody?
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   Posted 6/10/2008 12:15 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Try LSL bars.  They make top clamps with risers that accept MX style bars.  One main issue is clearance with the windscreen, that may require slight modification.  Check them out here: http://www.spieglerusa.com/cfm/sbk.cfm
 
 


 
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   Posted 6/10/2008 2:27 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Desmolicious said...
Sorry to say GAJ, but I think your antenna ring will go again. It seems to affect all new BMWs judging by what I've read on other owner sites. A ridiculous situation.

Ya know Desmo, I'm almost HOPING it happens again so I have an excuse to get this Street Triple, (yeah, I know, the Speed Triple is probably a better "value" but one high power bike is enough).  I rode my F800ST to work today and it is SUCH a great bike (for me) it is a real shame that BMW essentially cold shoulders its customers and one of its fans (me) is ready to dump it due to incompetent follow up by the Company that built it.
 
But again, the Street Triple is super cool, I hold a Brit Passport, and the last vehicle from the UK my family owned was an absolutely gorgeous, stunning almost, '70's Jaguar XJC V-12.
 
Stunningly unreliable mind you, but when it ran..."like buttah!" :-)
 
Question for Triumph owners out there; how reliable are they in your opinion, and how responsive is Triumph USA to issues?
 
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   Posted 6/10/2008 2:38 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

XJC V12?

yeah

Off topic (but that's never stopped us before!) I dropped by the Morgan dealership on Pico in Santa Monica this weekend to give my g/f an education as to what a 'real' sports car is.  They have a 35th anniversary Plus 8 in Bugatti Blue in the showroom.

Oh My Gawd it's beautiful!


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   Posted 6/10/2008 4:19 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Desmolicious said...

They have a 35th anniversary Plus 8 in Bugatti Blue in the showroom.

Oh My Gawd it's beautiful!

When you buy it, wear these...scool !
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   Posted 6/10/2008 4:26 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Buy it? The shop wants $98K for a 2004 w/ 3K miles! They were about $70K when they were last imported. The Plus 8 model is no longer imported, only the Aero 8.


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   Posted 6/10/2008 6:06 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Question for Triumph owners out there; how reliable are they in your opinion, and how responsive is Triumph USA to issues?

In my (limited) experience with this bike (1400+) it's been smooth running (although VERY buzzy). Triumph seems to stand behind it (as it has already acknowledged 2 problems and recalled them). It's fairly maintanence free and does not require frequent valve adjustments.
As far as converting a Daytona into a naked?...It could be done (easily), however will never "feel" like the Street Triple. The Daytona has different rake/trail that (with "tube bars") would make it a bit twitchy on the highway (problem many true "street fighters" suffer from). The Street Triple was designed for upright tube bars with it's rake/trail and lower swingarm pivot point. Most Street owners are not looking for maximum handling...however there are options if you are (aftermarket AND Daytona donor). The Street Triple is more of a "sporty standard" with the "street fighter" LOOK.
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   Posted 6/10/2008 8:05 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
GAJ, I'm on my second Triumph now. The first (Daytona 955i) was great with absolutely zero significant issues. The only problems I had were a cracked seat cowl and a prematurely terminal kush drive. Both were replaced under warrantee quickly with no problems. Some people have complained that Triumph NA is a pain in the ass, but I've not had any complaints whatsoever. I'm sure having a good dealer helps.

With my new Daytona 675, it's still too early to tell. It's only got about 1400 miles on it right now. As you probably remember, I did have a defective OEM battery but that was replaced immediately with no questions asked and an apology given. So far, I couldn't be any happier with the bike--it's a fantastic motorcycle. Okay, a bit less heat from the underseat exhaust and better mirrors would be nice, but I'm really not thinking about those things much because it's such a blast to ride. The engine is dead smooth mostly with limited vibration, the worst coming at about 7200 rpm, but it's pretty easy to ride around. Of course, the Street Triple is tuned differently, so I can't speak accurately for it.
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   Posted 6/10/2008 11:38 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The steering lock trait on Triumphs is nothing new, they've always been like that so far as I can tell, my speed triple is the same. it doesnt get in the way of anything.

Maybe I havent been keeping up on all the reviews but when the bike was released I recall always hearing about the non-adjustable front forks issue but tended to consistently hear that although non-adjustable they were pretty darn good and simply heard nothing but raves about the street triple, but I have to assume I havent been that well informed if you guys say you've seen reviews that pan it.

All the same, I know of three guys that have this bike and they absolutely love it, they are very skilled riders in my estimation and it strikes me that for it's task as a somewhat aggressive street bike it does pretty well. it cant be considered a simply naked version of the Daytona (def. a close younger conservative brother) as it's definetely been 'softened' and I've not seen triumph market it as 'hardcore' as the speed triple at all. It for whatever corporate reasons have been given competent yet decidedly not race-spec components (brakes, non-adjust forks and limited adj rear, non-race dunlops), I would hardly bash it as not being the ultimate middle-weight scalpel, it's a cool and aggressive yet still a city bike at it's core IMO and a rather good one at that.
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   Posted 6/11/2008 11:59 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
   Thanks Dr. S for the link for triple clamp/risers! I wasn't aware of LSL. On your other point. What windscreen? If you get my meaning.  As for the "twitchy" handling Ken, I considered that aspect. I wonder if suspension tuning might take just enough of the edge off that "razor-like" handling to make it a little more tolerable for real world riding? After all, I'm not aware of a perfect bike out there, there's always a compromise of some kind to be made. Besides, the difference in peak power levels between the Street and the Daytona kinda makes my mouth water, even if you do have to sacrifice a little flexibility.
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   Posted 6/12/2008 6:33 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I worked on Trumpets for a while, and I have to say I'm impressed with the results of the Street Triple. It was a great concept from the start - take a 675, strip it naked, take off the some of the racy bits, and sell it cheap. Up here they are 2000$ less than a Daytona, good bargain. 675s never had any significant issues, they are very sensitive to oil level (and had some high-profile blow ups in the British mags due to not watching the oil level) and the exhaust valve tends to be fiddly. Aside from that, good little mill, much more torque than any 600. Nice intake wail too. I always found the Speed Triple too fat and flobbery for my taste. 550lbs and a way-too-high seat, and a slightly flexy chassis (well, I'm pretty picky being used to a 916 as a daily rider, most people wouldn't notice) made it more of a cruiser-sport-machine than a pure sport bike without a fairing.

I was disappointed, however, by the cam change. Originally we were told the ST would have the exact same motor as the Daytona, with the detune done at the engine mapping level. Thus you would be able to download a Daytona fuel map and get a full power Daytona spec engine. Guess that was too good an idea to actually implement, buggers.

Don't forget, street racers, that a Daytona suspension and braking setup is a straight bolt on. Scour Ebay and you'll have a proper road burner for a few hundred bucks in used suspension bits off a Daytona.


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   Posted 6/12/2008 8:01 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Desmoquattro said...
I always found the Speed Triple too fat and flobbery for my taste. 550lbs ...
i find it hard to believe that a 'Speed Triple' weighs that much wet with a dry weight of 416 lbs. 
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   Posted 6/12/2008 2:16 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Key word there: DRY weight. Usually that's measured by adding up the weight of individual components. You think the latest superbikes weigh 380-390lbs? It's more like 430.

I doubled checked on the Sport Rider site. They list 490lbs wet, 500 was the old Daytona. Exhaust makes a big difference too, you can lop off 20+ pounds with the Arrow shorty pipe.


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   Posted 6/12/2008 4:18 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Desmoquattro said...

I doubled checked on the Sport Rider site. They list 490lbs wet, ...
ahhh, '490' sounds more like it.
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