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    |  Goofy1 Registered Member

       Date Joined Oct 2007 Total Posts : 40 | Posted 2/12/2008 2:39 PM (GMT -8) |   | | Chris V!!! Way cool to read his input, makes me feel closer to the MotoGP scene. Best of luck this year. Should be an exciting one. | | Back to Top | | |
  |  bmadson MCUSA Scribbler

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 1038 | Posted 3/14/2008 3:37 PM (GMT -8) |   | | Chris is back with another column, with the MotoGP rider giving MotorcycleUSA readers the Inside Line on racing under the lights at Qatar and what to make of the opening round of the 2008 tire war. Check out Vermeulen's Inside Line - March. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  BRKNtibia Registered Member
        Date Joined Sep 2005 Total Posts : 29 | Posted 3/14/2008 4:17 PM (GMT -8) |   | | Does anyone really care about GP's anymore? I mean come on, anybody can ride a GP bike nowadays. With all the sophisicated electronics and traction controll they use today a lot of rider skill is taken out of the equation. GP stars used to be real men who fought to hang on to uncontrollable monsters. Now they're all a bunch of wimpy little midget ex-250 riders. I've lost all interest. Unfortunately, superbike is headed the same direction. | | Back to Top | | |
   |  Racer1 Registered Member
        Date Joined Oct 2003 Total Posts : 734 | Posted 3/14/2008 6:29 PM (GMT -8) |   | BRKNtibia said... Does anyone really care about GP's anymore? I mean come on, anybody can ride a GP bike nowadays. With all the sophisicated electronics and traction controll they use today a lot of rider skill is taken out of the equation. GP stars used to be real men who fought to hang on to uncontrollable monsters. Now they're all a bunch of wimpy little midget ex-250 riders. I've lost all interest. Unfortunately, superbike is headed the same direction.
I'm no fan of the over emphasis on electronics myself, and I do agree that it has swung the rider / bike equation way too far over to the bike side.
However, with every season, even with a reduction in capacity thrown in there, lap times keep dropping. This means higher top speeds, immense braking loads - those carbon fiber brakes do not dick around - faster corner speeds and quick hook up with immense acceleration. A new riding style has been developed to cope with new demands. Look how far the riders have to hang off the bike on corner exits, to be able to get the bike closer to vertical to get the power to the ground early... it's a version of 250cc style riding, but 250s on steroids. The fitness levels demanded in this class are olympian - chain smoking Barry Sheene types need not apply any more - this is an intensely physical sport for "real men" no less. True the machines are MUCH more controllable, but to win at this level is no cake walk.
Having raced TZ350s myself I know only too well the dangers of a narrow power band, spinning rear tires on corner exits and the high chances of a violent high side. Multiply my experience by about 3 times the horsepower and you had the old GP 500s. I don't miss seeing guys getting hurt like that, and it's hard to argue they should if we have the technology to prevent it. I think we have strayed too far in the other direction at this point though, as evidenced by Michael Schumacher's jaunt on the Ducati... He wouldn't have been close to the pros on an old GP500 (and would have needed a change of underwear) - even though they were much slower round the circuit.
We can't halt progress, but with the smoother power delivery of the 800 4 strokes, maybe we could find some way to limit the electronic aids? | | Back to Top | | |
 |  Goofy1 Registered Member

       Date Joined Oct 2007 Total Posts : 40 | Posted 3/15/2008 11:03 AM (GMT -8) |   | Yes, I care. Electronics are the evolution of the game. i will run the stop watch on you at Jerez if it is sooo easy now to ride one fast. These guys are the best in the world. They work their butts off in training and riding. And as Nicky says at the end of the day you still have to twist the throttle.
Chris V--We were all scratching our heads when your tire went off as other riders on the same tire were still at speed. The up side is that there is nowhere to go but up in the standings from here!!
All the best, G. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  bmadson MCUSA Scribbler

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