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bmadson
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   Posted 10/24/2005 10:16 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As you may well know, we've been working on some big plans here at MCUSA to kick some ass down in Mexico during the Baja 1000. Well, after taking our lumps in Vegas-to-Reno, we've readjusted our goals a bit, hoping merely to survive. We feel pretty confident in our chances though since we're going to be aboard the most badass desert bike available. Check out our test of the stock XR650R to see what we started with when the journey began.
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   Posted 10/24/2005 11:57 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
19mpg?! I'm not really familiar with this kind of bike but is that normal for the class? My Jeep Wrangler 4.0 gets 16mpg when I'm off roading in harsh conditions!


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   Posted 10/24/2005 12:56 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Same old XR. Powerful, dependable, solid as a rock and probally the most fun "all-around" dirt bike ever produced.
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   Posted 10/24/2005 6:01 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
wow, nice. I love watching these fast off-road videos you guys put togethor. this, the kdx200, and the whole host of wr/crf450/250s videos have all been very nice. when ever i watch them i go out and try to get my kx to do that stuff. I just started riding. its not as easy as u guys make it look!


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   Posted 10/25/2005 3:46 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Desmo,

Man, I'd be happy to get 19 on the HIGHWAY with my pickup! We came up with that figure based on our own experiences. We put full tanks through those beast on wide-open stuff and we did the same on tighter trail rides sprinkled with gravel roads, but the mileage was always in the same region. That isn't to say that different styles of riding will make it go for less or more, but for us we kept hitting reserve at around 50 miles.
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   Posted 10/25/2005 3:46 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Desmo,

Man, I'd be happy to get 19 on the HIGHWAY with my pickup! We came up with that figure based on our own experiences. We put full tanks through those beast on wide-open stuff and we did the same on tighter trail rides sprinkled with gravel roads, but the mileage was always in the same region. That isn't to say that different styles of riding will make it go for less or more, but for us we kept hitting reserve at around 50 miles.
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   Posted 10/25/2005 4:20 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks Hilde. 19 mpg from a 650 single seems unbelievably bad, but if that's what they all do... When I had my KLR650, putt-putting on dirt trails I got about 35 mpg, but I was going a fraction of your speed. As for my Jeep, mileage really doesn't improve on the highway by much. It's all about aerodynamics and my open front fenders aren't helping.


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   Posted 10/25/2005 4:45 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
In paper magazines, they say almost nothing negative about the bikes they test. MC-USA is alot more fair, and to their credit they at least mentioned the negatives. Still, I think that MC-USA was WAY too easy on this bike.

The bike in this article, the 650R, is NOT street legal. So this is no V-Strom, instead this is a bike whose only purpose is riding on dirt. Yet one of the captions reads, "...tight trails aren't the big Honda's natural environment..." If I buy a purpose-built dirt bike, it had better work well in tight trails.

I can't see the point building such a big bike for the dirt.

The short range is acceptable to me, because the bike is not street legal.


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   Posted 10/26/2005 7:35 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
OhioSteve,
First off, thanks for the feedback! That kind of stuff is great for us to hear! We do this stuff for you guys, and we want to be as fair as possible while giving you the kind of content that you're looking for, so keep letting us know what we're doing right or wrong...

If you're going to buy a purpose-built dirt bike that performs well in the tight trails, you shoud probably look no further that a smaller-bore machine like the KTM 200XC or one of the off-road 250 thumpers. Of course there are bigger bikes that work tremendously in the woods, especially if you are a larger rider, but as far as purpose-built goes, those XR650s are desert racing machines, WFO.

I do share your desire, however, to have a bike that can at least perform in all kinds of terrain, and the XR does do that. If I gave the impression that the Honda is incapable of handling tight trails, then it was misleading. Just remember, this thing is big, and when push comes to shove, 305 pounds is going to work you over slimy roots, log crossings and all the wonderful nasties we encounter in the woods.

If you are interested in going street legal on the XR, there are several options. First, if you start with an XR650R model like we had, then aftermarket kits like the Baja Designs one that we bolted on can get you on the way to dual-sporting. But, perhaps an easier way is to just buy an XR650L which actually costs less than the R and comes stock with signals, plate holder and the like (it also has a 2.8 gal tank, slightly bigger than the R).
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   Posted 10/29/2005 4:01 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah, I saw the street-legal version on Honda's website. That would be a fantastic value for a rider with the right inseam length. Then you could ride to the trail, eliminating the need for the truck.


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   Posted 11/2/2005 11:24 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ohio: That bike you saw on Honda's site actually would be sweet since it has all the DOT crap right out of the gate. Plus, it would be a great supermoto entry bike. But hey, we're talking XR650-Rs here right. You say we were too easy on the XR. How so? Regarding the trails comment - basically the XR is meant to be an all aorunder with an emphasis on desert riding. Damn near every desert racer in the paddock at the Vegas to reno race was in fact an XR650R. That's really what we meant by that caption. In other words: CRF450X is the better woods bike for example.

X2468: You are the reason we do those videos. Every time we go out and get the footage, then go back to the office and start putting them together all we can think of is 'Man, I hope people dig this stuff" so to hear you like it is so sweet - thanks! We'll keep 'em coming.


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   Posted 2/4/2007 1:18 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I am looking at dual-sport bikes, a bike type I have not been around much, but the lust for going in the back country for exploring the lonesome gravel roads down here is coming on.

So for you serious dual sporters: Me and pillion would probably be happy with a 650 something. I am looking at KLR650 besides this Honda XR650, but also the Suzuki V-Strom. What do you think? We're not gonna go completely nuts out there, but a little jumping and sliding won't hurt.


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   Posted 2/4/2007 2:49 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Just adding to (or supporting) what the MCUSA crew have said here. Two of the bikes I Desert raced, were XR500R's and, I also rode them in the logging road area's of Oregon, that MC trails have been made on, (and from). That covers a lot of Desert wide open throttle, and forrested mountain, tight trails / steep ups and downs. Everything they said is right.
When it comes to how much of a challenge to handle the bike is, it seperates the men from the boys. A dirt rider that knows how to handle the XR500R, makes it look like a 250. It's all a question of is the power working for you, or is the weight working against you. It was too heavy for me, too much of the time, but the guys that taught me how to race, liked mine so much (we would trade bikes sometimes) they switched to XR500R's and I switched to KTM 495 (two stroke). One day, (play riding, and on a trace of a road called a two track, that wound through a Juniper forrest (Close to Prineville Oregon) Those two guys on their XR's rode side by side for miles, on the rear wheel, and the road is constant tight turns and some rocky parts, and those two guys are in perfect syncro, turning with power and body english, in a dance. That's something that the XR inspires to do, it's a fun bike.
Because it's four stroke gas milage was so much better than the two stroke bikes, I could skip a gas stop. That is such a rush, to go past everyone stopped for gas, and do it at full throttle, front wheel lofted, and for the pit people (a lot of Mom's and Dad's and Girl friends) that was the only part of the race they saw, and almost everyone they saw was pulling in, stopped or leaving. That's not quite as impressive as full throttle and flying :-)


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   Posted 3/7/2007 2:06 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bitchin Vid!!!!


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