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   Posted 6/19/2008 7:54 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Higher prices and mandatory installation of speed limiters on motorcycles. All these rumors and more in this month's edition of Euro Gossip.
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   Posted 6/19/2008 11:47 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

A lot in the Euro Gossip well worth reading.  Mind you Europe, UK, Japan, & others have finally realized the global warm-up is actually kicking in.  Mind you the USA is sort of lugging behind trying to ignore what is happening.

The safety of m/cs & fortunately the throttle control has be recognized as being a bit to dangerous due to lack of control of the rider.  Though I can see many used of track bars or whatever can come into effect & have been on stunters bikes for past few years.

I was surprised to note the name of Belstaff when it comes to some of the safety riding clothing.  I still have a Barbour & Sons jacket or two hanging around to some piece of Belstaff though all in waxed cotton of the past years though 100% waterproof.  I heared that Belstaff moved over to Australia or New Zealand, from the UK, & is now in Italy probably sharing some ideas with Alpinestars.

YES I can see decent smaller bikes will be the liking of someone with a fuel guzzeling cage or same on a m/c, if that is at a decent price for around town use THOUGH  he/she will have to accept the fact that their BIG ONE will only be used on occasions & accept the pride being let down a bit ESPECIALLY once they run into the cost of fuel, to food, to almost anything NOT to mention the CARBON TAX they are bound to get in a while AND said Carbon Tax is not only on their fuel, but propane, natural gas, home heating oil, cost of a quart of oil for their vehicles, to electrical taxes going up, for yes it is even on COAL.

Mind you the ugly Triumph Cruiser is welcome to come in, but really who wants it?  Might just as well have the Cruiser that BMW tried to intorduce which is not sensible since they are cutting down on some of the better f/forks to brakes.

Yes the scooter would will settle down to some sensible makers, distibutors & dealers for right now there are makes out there that will fold up in time.  The three wheel scooter I do ponder about, but the four wheel might be an answer especially to those that live in pretty well all year around riding weather.  Cost is going to be a big factor for you name it will be going up in price & some do not realize this yet.  I can see they might be giving Bombardie & its Spyder a bit of a scare.


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   Posted 6/19/2008 1:36 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ugggghhhh, sounds like the Street Triple R I was lusting after might have to be priced significantly higher than the Street Triple due to improved content and crappy exchange rates.

Ah well...I can always take Desmo and Lou's suggestions and put Heli bars on my old TLS...and if I crash it, strip off the plastic and approximate that bike for a lot less.

As to the safety nazis??

I have faith in the euro bikers' ability to stave that off.
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   Posted 6/19/2008 3:37 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
GAJ. Do the heli riser thing. And when I'm in your neck o the woods you can thank me by showing me some good roads!


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   Posted 6/19/2008 4:10 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The Fuoco 500 mentioned in the article is already sold as a Piaggio in the US. I have seen a bunch of them on the roads in LA. I checked it out and thought it was really cool. 2 problems:
1/ I cruise at 80mph and it's top speed is about 85mph so it will be really struggling (it weighs a huge amount - 540lbs!!! - and this cannot help).
2/ Price. You can get a new Monster 696 for the same money. Yah I know it's not the same thing but when you take into account that the MP3 500/Fucoc can just about break 80mph, it puts things into perspective.

I think the MP3 500 is a fantastic and fun design, but IMO it desperately needs more motor. 40hp aint enough to push that thing. 80hp would be perfect...


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   Posted 6/20/2008 8:18 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah, GAJ, I expected the Street Triple R to cost a bit more coin, but the exchange rate is the real inhibiting problem. Still, it might be worth it.

I've seen a couple of pics of the new D675. The front fairing has been revised and seems fairly nice. It's a bit more aggressive but they've added two slats to the ram air intake that I'm not sold on. The rest of the bodywork is the same. The bike does appear to have upgraded suspension and possibly brakes and the rumor is a bit more power, possibly up to a claimed 130 hp. For months, the word has been that the engine is getting some of the race kit parts and new mapping. We shall see.

And, yes, the safety Nazis will likely be defeated. I can't believe they're still harping on about that (un)intelligent speed control nonsense. That could be one of the worst ideas in history. Morons.
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   Posted 6/20/2008 10:32 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Desmolicious said...
GAJ. Do the heli riser thing. And when I'm in your neck o the woods you can thank me by showing me some good roads!

Well how could I turn down something reco'd by Desmo and Lou?
 
We have some great, if bumpy, back roads...I'm gonna start a thread on HOW bumpy based on a, um, part, that broke on my DRZ400SM.
 
I mean how rough are roads when they shatter a part on a dirt bike based moto and you haven't even crashed!
 
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   Posted 6/20/2008 11:54 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dr. Bombay said...
I can't believe they're still harping on about that (un)intelligent speed control nonsense. That could be one of the worst ideas in history. Morons.
speaking of dumb features, i think the ABC modes on suzuki bikes are pretty dumb.  i have bi-mode on my suzuki and i test it once and that was enough for me to think it's one of the biggest waste of time.  and btw, the passing light is pretty bad too imo.  c'mon suzuki, give me something i can actually use i.e., cruise control, heated grips, gps, etc.
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   Posted 6/20/2008 3:21 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What broke on your SM GAJ? I thought that Japanese bikes don't break....


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   Posted 6/23/2008 8:24 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Desmolicious said...
The Fuoco 500 mentioned in the article is already sold as a Piaggio in the US. I have seen a bunch of them on the roads in LA. I checked it out and thought it was really cool. 2 problems:
1/ I cruise at 80mph and it's top speed is about 85mph so it will be really struggling (it weighs a huge amount - 540lbs!!! - and this cannot help).
2/ Price. You can get a new Monster 696 for the same money. Yah I know it's not the same thing but when you take into account that the MP3 500/Fucoc can just about break 80mph, it puts things into perspective.

I think the MP3 500 is a fantastic and fun design, but IMO it desperately needs more motor. 40hp aint enough to push that thing. 80hp would be perfect...


The MP3 might be more "bike" than you're giving it credit for. I'm just finishing a test of one, and I can assure you it can top 90 mph!


-KD, Former MotorcycleUSA Editor

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   Posted 6/23/2008 10:12 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Still nothing on a new 1500 - 1700 cc Triumph Cruiser?


 

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   Posted 6/23/2008 11:09 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

It is amazing what fuel milage advertising to shops to salesmen are claiming when it comes to cages, to also m/cs & scooters--------all lies being big selling points.  It is like the 49cc scooters & so many salesmen at scooter shops to m/c shops, that handle scooter, CLAIM they can do 80mph & climb any steepness in hills.

This is hilly terrain being that we are in a valley & most of the homes are up on the sides of the mountans, so power to get one up is very important & NO ONE is mentioning that the sand/salt so often on those roads is a task for said scooters with such small wheels not to mention balancing or staying upright is a bit of a task as most hills to their homes are with switche backs to get up there------no problem with a cage mind you.

At a Yamaha shop I heard all the wonderful words about said 400cc scooter.  The wife, of a couple, tried to upright a Yamaha Majesty off its prop stand & being a woman of around 5' 1" or 2" in height plus a slim build she found she simply was not applying the power to take the heavy scooter off its prop stand. That is when the begin to look AGAIN at 49cc scooters & no they did not buy.   Lessons are about to be learned in the scooter world now & in the future.


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   Posted 6/23/2008 11:29 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Kevin Duke said...
The MP3 might be more "bike" than you're giving it credit for. I'm just finishing a test of one, and I can assure you it can top 90 mph!

90 mph on the speedo or real radar confirmed/speed tested value?
 


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   Posted 6/23/2008 1:51 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Desmolicious said...
What broke on your SM GAJ? I thought that Japanese bikes don't break....

I posted this on Everyday Rider; feel free to laugh at my expense:
 
So I'm riding my '06 DRZ400SM home on my normal 20 mile bumpy, twisty backroad commute here in NorCal yesterday, and as usual I'm twisting the ever loving crap outta the throttle with a big ass grin on my face, (that little bike does that even though it is one of the wimpiest of SM's), when I start hearing curious metallic noises. confused
 
Oh, oh, is that valve noise?  Am I running low on oil?  So I keep rolling on and off the throttle to see if it is rev related and sometimes it seems yes, and sometimes it seems no, so, rather than do the "logical thing," which is perhaps to pull over, I do my normal dumbass thing and decide, idea "well, I don't have my cellphone so I'm gonna go for it."
 
As I enter town the noise seems to have diminished so I'm fairly confident that the engine won't blow before I get home and, besides, the temp and oil lights haven't flashed so I'm good to go.
 
Roll into the driveway, turn off the bike, and look.
 
My entire tailight assemply had cracked at the two underseat mounting holes and fallen only held by the three electrical wires for the lights!  Doh!! smhair
 
One turn signal smashed from wacking the exhaust and the bulb in the rear light is tinkling in its reflector and the license plate has been rubbed of all the color on the numerals and bent to a fair thee well, (looks kinda cool actually).
 
Big gash around 1/3 of the tire where obviously I had hit an especially big bump that nearly completely compressed the rear suspension and jammed the whole assembly between the frame and the tire!  Yikes.
 
So now I need a new rear tire and an aftermarket tailight assembly to replace the piece of crap heavy defective piece from the factory.
 
Any recommendations?
 
I'm going to look on Motostrano, but recos would be appreciated.
 
If you own a DRZ be forewarned.
 
Great bike, love it, but sheesh, whodda thunk the back roads of Sonoma County, as bad as they are busted up, would break pieces on a quasi dirt bike??
 
I'm starting to think my two newest bikes hate me...I've already recounted how my F800ST's have f**ked with me.
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   Posted 6/23/2008 2:11 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Desmolicious said...
Kevin Duke said...


The MP3 might be more "bike" than you're giving it credit for. I'm just finishing a test of one, and I can assure you it can top 90 mph!


90 mph on the speedo or real radar confirmed/speed tested value?


An easy 90 mph on probably an optimistic speedo. But since I also saw 105 mph on it, I figure it can exceed an actual 90 mph.


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   Posted 6/23/2008 2:44 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Kevin, I'm looking forward to reading your test of it. Does it feel happy cruising at 80mph? i.e. can you tour on this thing? I try to avoid freeways anyway, but sometime ya gotta slab it. How is it 2-up?


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   Posted 6/23/2008 7:02 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It's definitely comfy at 80, Desmo. And anyone you throw on back is gonna enjoy the broad, cushy seat and grab rails. It proved to be more impressive than I anticipated.


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